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elSicomoro · 05-18-2008, 08:41 PM

Tommy, I posted the fact that I got 20 miles per gallon in my Cobalt while delivering pizzas in an urban environment, a 5 mile per gallon improvement over my previous vehicle (a 2003 Chevrolet Malibu).

I then posted the fact that my car attained 40 miles per gallon during a highway drive. Incidentally, I achieved that again last night, which my wife can verify.

I then posted revised fuel economy ratings from the US Government, refuting your statement that 40mpg was standard for compact cars 15 years ago...it wasn't standard 10 years ago, and isn't now. I don't doubt that some of those cars can achieve 40mpg in certain conditions, though...mine does. It exceeds what the government says it should get by 25%.

I then threw in the subcompacts then and now...even those cars aren't rated at 40mpg.

You mentioned that 70hp/L has been standard for 20 years...I posted the hp/L ratings that I obtained from Wikipedia entries for the Civic, Corolla and Cavalier...the ratings I obtained refute your statement.

You then stated that the Vega, Cavalier and Cobalt were J-body cars...again, I pulled information from Wikipedia that refutes that statement. Only the Cavalier was a J-body.

And you can also pull such information from other places besides Wikipedia...that site happened to be the most convenient.

You say that the Cobalt has a poor reputation...in general, I have not seen reports as such. There have indeed been complaints about the interior being cheap and that it is not as fun to drive as other compacts. In addition, the older models apparently did not fare well on crash-test ratings, though it scores well now.

So, Tommy, I posted facts that can be backed up. Can you back yours up?

05-18-2008, 08:41 PM	#99
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Tommy, I posted the fact that I got 20 miles per gallon in my Cobalt while delivering pizzas in an urban environment, a 5 mile per gallon improvement over my previous vehicle (a 2003 Chevrolet Malibu). I then posted the fact that my car attained 40 miles per gallon during a highway drive. Incidentally, I achieved that again last night, which my wife can verify. I then posted revised fuel economy ratings from the US Government, refuting your statement that 40mpg was standard for compact cars 15 years ago...it wasn't standard 10 years ago, and isn't now. I don't doubt that some of those cars can achieve 40mpg in certain conditions, though...mine does. It exceeds what the government says it should get by 25%. I then threw in the subcompacts then and now...even those cars aren't rated at 40mpg. You mentioned that 70hp/L has been standard for 20 years...I posted the hp/L ratings that I obtained from Wikipedia entries for the Civic, Corolla and Cavalier...the ratings I obtained refute your statement. You then stated that the Vega, Cavalier and Cobalt were J-body cars...again, I pulled information from Wikipedia that refutes that statement. Only the Cavalier was a J-body. And you can also pull such information from other places besides Wikipedia...that site happened to be the most convenient. You say that the Cobalt has a poor reputation...in general, I have not seen reports as such. There have indeed been complaints about the interior being cheap and that it is not as fun to drive as other compacts. In addition, the older models apparently did not fare well on crash-test ratings, though it scores well now. So, Tommy, I posted facts that can be backed up. Can you back yours up?