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I didn't see any differentiation between legal and illegal immigrants in the OP?

Merc and L123 introduced that concept.

seems to me Fresh's comments were perfectly valid. you're all so hung up on illegal immigration that you forget the legal type exists and then go on the attack to hide your embarrassment resulting from the faux pas, as far as I can tell.

So what are we talking about here? legal/illegal/are they all the same? (radar, your answer is taken as read) We came here to take a job that was offered to us. We stole nothing. But the only reason we could is because y'all don't train enough engineers with the right expertise. So to go back to the ant analogy, you get the cookies, put them on the counter, but then have no idea what to do with them until the ants arrive and show you what to do. Then you get mad at them. wtg!

And while you're ranting about immigration, remember that these days it goes both ways. You may not admit it, but you'd be fecking pissed off if you went to a country that needed your expertise and they refused to let you work -even for a pittance- because you were American. You stop legal immigration, you're going to lose the ability to emmigrate too. You can't be a world superpower if your citizens can't work in other countries.