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Old 02-08-2008, 02:16 PM   #63
DanaC
We have to go back, Kate!
 
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For a few years, yes he was. Experience of these converted him away
Converted him away from communism. He remained, nevertheless, a socialist.

Please, UG, don't start throwing Runnymede at me. Runnymede was not the beginning of limited monarchichal prerogatives. The Charter of Liberties was declared invalid before it ever took hold. It contained a few nice ideas and the beginnings, of a nascent sense amongst the Baronage, of themselves as a seperate set of interests from the King. It also contained a hell of a lot of individual grievances and claims which were entirely in keeping with the times. It was signed as a timebuying measure and failed to prevent the civil war which followed. It was lost and rediscovered centuries later and has become considered great only in retrospect.

America's cause is not Humanity's cause. No more than the British Empire's cause was Humanity's cause. There are many ways to forge democracies and America's democracy is not the only model nor America democracy's only purveyor.

Arrogant. Arrogant, arrogant fool to think you are the One People who can save the world. The One People who have the answer.
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