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That's a little presumptive, don't you think? That was the first post I've even made in this thread... but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were still seething from your conversation with lookout. I have stated before in other threads that I would prefer for illegal immigrants to be assimilated into the social systems that they are benefitting from, i.e. an easier road to naturalization and paying taxes. I certainly recognize the flaws in the institutions, because I am directly affected by them on a daily basis.
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My fault then. I thought you were focusing on something else.
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Your seven-point Poli Sci 101 essay aside, you still ultimately assert that they are not "hurting our economy" with the current state of affairs, and that is what I was responding to.
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Immigrants are very good for the economy in some areas and hurtful in others, I realize that fact, but I would prefer having at least an idea of how helpful immigrants are in other areas because just cutting off sources without looking into them can be very dangerous.
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Pity does not change the fact that their overall monetary effect is currently negative for many communities. Deportation does not have to be the solution (I, for one, think it's impractical and unrealistic if nothing else) but that doesn't change the fact that there is a problem, and any solution requires more than the multi-generational (if not outright utopian) goal of 'improving the lives of people in other countries.'
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The problem I see is that there might be a correlation between what is happening economically in Mexico, immigration, and NAFTA. I still don't know enough about it to say for certain, but I have glanced into it and there seems to be similarities. That is one of the reasons for my harder stance. If it just came out of nowhere and the US did nothing to cause or worsen the problem, I would have a different viewpoint.