The Cellar - View Single Post - There are no illegal immigrants in America

regular.joe · 01-01-2008, 11:18 PM

Definition of immigration: entrance of a person (an alien) into a new country for the purpose of establishing permanent residence.

Definition of naturalization: official act by which a person is made a national of a country other than his or her native one.

When the Congress makes a laws that form a uniform rule of naturalization, they are making rules for immigrants to become citizens. The first paragraph of section 8 in the constitution describes the congress as being able to provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States. The last paragraph of section 8 gives congress the power to make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

If the congress decides that it is in the welfare of the United States to control immigration into the United States, it is well within the power of congress to make these laws.

So, yes technically, people are free to travel where ever they want, heck I suppose I could move to china and open a rubber dog shit factory. I would subject myself to the laws of China in the process. Once they cross the border into the U.S. they fall under the laws of the land, enacted by our congress. I don't see where this is unconstitutional. Between providing for the general welfare of the United States, and forming a uniform rule of naturalization congress is well withing it's bounds forming laws on immigration and naturalization.

About the Supreme Court.

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;-- between a State and Citizens of another State;--between Citizens of different States;--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

I still don't see the problem.

01-01-2008, 11:18 PM	#11
regular.joe Старый сержант Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NC, dreaming of large Russian women. Posts: 1,464	Definition of immigration: entrance of a person (an alien) into a new country for the purpose of establishing permanent residence. Definition of naturalization: official act by which a person is made a national of a country other than his or her native one. When the Congress makes a laws that form a uniform rule of naturalization, they are making rules for immigrants to become citizens. The first paragraph of section 8 in the constitution describes the congress as being able to provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States. The last paragraph of section 8 gives congress the power to make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof. If the congress decides that it is in the welfare of the United States to control immigration into the United States, it is well within the power of congress to make these laws. So, yes technically, people are free to travel where ever they want, heck I suppose I could move to china and open a rubber dog shit factory. I would subject myself to the laws of China in the process. Once they cross the border into the U.S. they fall under the laws of the land, enacted by our congress. I don't see where this is unconstitutional. Between providing for the general welfare of the United States, and forming a uniform rule of naturalization congress is well withing it's bounds forming laws on immigration and naturalization. About the Supreme Court. The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;-- between a State and Citizens of another State;--between Citizens of different States;--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects. In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make. I still don't see the problem. __________________ Birth, wealth, and position are valueless during wartime. Man is only judged by his character --Soldier's Testament. Death, like birth, is a secret of Nature. - Marcus Aurelius.