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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45
Back up your shit Radar. I have yet to see proof of unalienable rights.
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Wrong. You've seen it many times, but you just deny it much like a child putting fingers in their ears while saying, "I can't hear you!".
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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45
Where did I say this Radar? I think you are throwing words in my mouth again.
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By denying the existence of natural rights, you deny the existence of gravity. Both are equally part of natural law.
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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45
Ok, I will get into this. First of all, do you know how gravity works Radar? There is something that causes the acceleration of gravity whether it is a particle or something else, something causes gravity. What causes rights? Who gives us rights?
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Natural law encompasses gravity and natural rights. You claim that gravity exists because a particle exists. Natural rights exist because nature exists.
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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45
Then, you can take away gravity but not rights. If I take away whatever is causing gravity I can physically have a world without gravity. You cannot do the same things with rights. You cannot have a physical person without rights, it is impossible to even imagine. That is why rights are abstract concepts. You cannot take away their effects so therefore you can not tell if rights are real or not.
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No, you can't take away gravity. Society has no bearing on gravity. Every single person on earth could unanimously vote to get rid of gravity, and it would still exist. The same is true of our natural rights. If every single person on earth voted for our rights to go away, we'd still have them. Nothing you say or do will remove either gravity or our natural rights.
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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45
Are you sure about this? Can you give me at least a survey that suggests this? Because actually, this is the only board I've been too that thinks we have unalienable rights.
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Yes I'm sure about it and I don't need to provide a survey. By all means do your own survey. Ask everyone you meet if they have the right to live. Then ask if that right comes from their government or if they are born with that right.
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Radar, can you answer these questions.
What is the difference between philosophy and science?
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I'll wait to answer this until you've completed your assigned reading.
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Who or what gives us rights? If you say that nothing gives us rights than name something else in the universe that we have or affect by but is not caused by anything.
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Nature (aka the laws of physics) grant us these rights at birth.
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How do you know that "killing all the Jews" isn't an unalienable right because some people believe it is?
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I know that murdering Jews isn't a right because if one human being has a right to life, we all do. My rights end where another person's begin. I don't have a right to kill another human unless it is in my own defense. My right to swing my fist ends where another person's nose begins.
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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45
How do we know that "bearing arms" is an unalienable right and "killing all the Jews" isn't? Who told us? What told them or how did they find out?
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Bearing arms does not infringe on the rights of others. Murder does. Bearing arms is part of our right to life. Murder is not one of our rights because our rights don't include infringing on the rights of others.
Now shut up your yap, and do some reading.