[Whit]

The right thing never includes violating the Constitution.

     According to them they're not, you are in violation of the 16th amendment since you say you don't pay your income tax. They are acting in good faith, with the 16th embedment being in effect in mind.

No, there's a government right here ignoring the will of the people.

     How many people have spoken out on this thread that say they don't like income taxes, but prefer paying them to losing all the services they fund? It's not the will of the majority that is being ignored here, and the government serves that will. So, the government is not ignoring the will of the people.
     Of course I suspect you'll go into the "majority can't impose" argument. So I'm not sure why you brought this up anyway. Just wanted to bring it full circle? I don't know why I bother to ask since that's just the sort of question that you always ignore...

No, now the slave masters use guns and call themselves the IRS

     So, I take it you've been shot? Since you directly link the IRS with a gun to a slaver with a whip and you don't do income tax then they must have shot you by now. Oh wait, in reality the situation isn't anything close to as harsh as slavery. You're just linking to a greater evil.
     There are legions looking to take over the world? Okay, I'll accept that. Now how many of them are in a position to do so? I gave GWB up before you got there. I really don't like the guy. Okay, he might try to maintain power even if voted out. I doubt even he'd try that though. Of course as I've said elsewhere he's tried (and succeeded) in doing a lot of things I didn't think he could pull off. Perhaps we can agree to take a "wait and see" approach, just keeping a close eye on him? What else would you suggest?

I didn't say they were bad people and I didn't say all of them. There are a few decent judges out there. But many of them take part in the judicial conspiracy to defend taxation because they are frightened of spilling the apple cart. They don't want to be the judge responsible for ending the fraud of income taxes. And many of them are prevented from even trying by the IRS statutes which state they have no jurisdiction.

     Working from your point of view, then every Judge that has backed the 16th was either corrupt, stupid or scared. Fine, then you see only the corrupt ones as flat out bad. But then, from your point of view, doesn't that leave the door open to finding an intelligent and brave judge? Yet, you are already talking war.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

     Yeah, but you have good intentions too right? ... Why is it that only the other guy that'll go to hell? Oh right, you've got purity, light and kittens on your side, so your intentions are beyond question.

As I've said, I have nothing against taxes. I'm only against income taxes.

     Sigh. Fine, I'll not say taxes without specifying income taxes anymore if you won't. It's a little cheesy to make the other guy say the entire phrase if you won't, and you have said 'tax' without the 'income' repeatedly.

And yes, if someone enslaves or robs me and my loved ones, it's enough to shoot another man. If someone attacks me and my civil rights, it's enough to shoot another man. If someone takes away every avenue for me to challenge the injustice they've done to me, it's enough for me to shoot them. If someone commits extortion against me at the point of a gun and then has the gall to ask for my allegiance, it's enough for me to shoot them. If they murder others around me when they try to stand up for their rights, it's enough for me to shoot them.

     Um, by your own admission you've not paid income taxes. So you're not being robbed. Also you say if we know proper court procedure, as you do, we don't have to either. So how are you robbed or enslaved? Hmm, I've addressed the fact that by your own logic you still have an avenue open, just find a brave and honest judge. As far as the last line goes, by the beliefs you've previously expressed then you should have started shooting when the writer died. It's a little after the fact now. But if this is your belief then why didn't you?

First off there are MILLIONS of other Americans who feel like I do. And do you really think the American military will fire on their own families? Even when ordered to do so, very few will. And I'll be armed with a lot more than righteous indignation.

     No, the military won't fire on their family's. But if you don't have a better percentage of the military than you do of the cellar then they will see you as the threat to their families, not the government. Just a thought.

We would take over the government and wouldn't kill unless someone opposed us with weapons which we of course anticipate.

     Again, if there are good people in the gov then it's not wholly corrupt. Talking about war before exhausting all other possibilities is nutty. Remember, you are saying that you'd expect to kill the people you plan to free. Does this mindset remind any one of anything?

And when I call you an idiot, it doesn't go against the idea of all men being created equal. All men aren't of equal skills or capacities, but all are created with equal rights.

     Heh, so we idiots should be only to happy to have you there to make our decisions so we don't strain our weak minds? I guess we're lucky to have someone a little more "equal" than us.

Yes, you have the right to have any ideas you wish. But you don't have the right to use legislation to push them on to me or other Americans.

     Again, you said with proper procedure and such you don't have to pay. So, you're not having anything pushed on you.
     Oh yeah, sorry for the lateness of the reply. An electrical storm kept my computer down most of the day.