[Radar]

Many believe they are doing the right thing.

The right thing never includes violating the Constitution.

There is no monarchy ignoring people across the sea.

No, there's a government right here ignoring the will of the people.

There is no vicious slaver cracking a whip.

No, now the slave masters use guns and call themselves the IRS

There is no 'Proffesor Darkevil' trying to take over the
world.

George W. Bush and legions of other collectivists and imperialists are
trying to.

Well, Bush might want to but he doesn't have the time in office
left...

He violated the Constitution more than all other presidents combined in less than his first 2 years and nearly got us into WW3 in his first year. And let's not forget that not getting elected didn't stop him from getting in the oval office in 2000.

But there is no way every Judge in the US is a bad person.

I didn't say they were bad people and I didn't say all of them. There are a few decent judges out there. But many of them take part in the judicial conspiracy to defend taxation because they are frightened of spilling the apple cart. They don't want to be the judge responsible for ending the fraud of income taxes. And many of them are prevented from even trying by the IRS statutes which state they have no jurisdiction.

Many believe they are doing the right thing. They are trying to do the best for the people they can.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Instead of voting for better people you want to shoot the ones that are in now. Is paying taxes (or not, in your case) enough to shoot another man? As oposed to continuing to work through the system?

As I've said, I have nothing against taxes. I'm only against income taxes. And yes, if someone enslaves or robs me and my loved ones, it's enough to shoot another man. If someone attacks me and my civil rights, it's enough to shoot another man. If someone takes away every avenue for me to challenge the injustice they've done to me, it's enough for me to shoot them. If someone commits extortion against me at the point of a gun and then has the gall to ask for my allegiance, it's enough for me to shoot them. If they murder others around me when they try to stand up for their rights, it's enough for me to shoot them.

When the government doesn't abide by the rules created for the system, how can I use the system to fix government?

You make it sound like you are going to line up and face down the
US military and smite them with your rightousness.

First off there are MILLIONS of other Americans who feel like I do. And do you really think the American military will fire on their own families? Even when ordered to do so, very few will. And I'll be armed with a lot more than righteous indignation.

You are not talking about reform, you are talking about
destruction. Killing fathers and mothers that, in many cases, are just
as sure that they are following the Constitution as you are. The
difference is that they work in the system to accoplish what they think
are improvements. You say you'll shoot them.

No, I don't have to shoot them. In fact I'd like us to handle the revolution without a single drop of blood spilled or a single person opposing us. It's not going to be me and others like me indiscriminately killing other Americans. We would take over the government and wouldn't kill unless someone opposed us with weapons which we of course anticipate. And they aren't accomplishing anything from within the corrupt system. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

The odd part is that you can't see that calling us idiots for not agreeing with everything you say is against the very idea "all men are created equal."

I don't call you idiots for not agreeing with me. I call you idiots for your belief that the government has unlimited power and that as long as the general populace wants something, it's within their right to vote for it and have it. And when I call you an idiot, it doesn't go against the idea of all men being created equal. All men aren't of equal skills or capacities, but all are created with equal rights.

No, all of us are equalls. We have a right to ideas different than yours without the threat of war.

Yes, you have the right to have any ideas you wish. But you don't have the right to use legislation to push them on to me or other Americans. The role and powers of government is limited to only what is written in the constitution. And I only want to return America to a Constitutional republic. And as long as you don't oppose that end, you have nothing to
fear.

You have certainly proven yourself superior to them. You'll kill instead of jail. Way to go.

I certainly have. There are those who will allow themselves to be enslaved and those who will fight for freedom. The founding fathers said that our right to freedom and liberty were more important than our lives.

Ben Franklin said it best...

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin

Well, if you do initiate the revolution, I hope you'll spare President Bush. He's a good man, and doesn't deserve death, even if he does command the army to kill you.[/quote]

There's nothing good about GWB. George W. Bush is the single worst President in American history and he's a coward. He's responsible for the worst attacks on our civil rights in the history of America. He'd be the first one I would take out.

Let's assume for a minute that taxes were abolished due, in part, to Radar's (flawed) sense of federal law among other things.

There are no flaws in my logic or my sense of federal law.

So now I, along with my neighbors, the people reading this and everyone else that bothers to pay, have more expendible money. What can I do with all this money? SPEND IT, OF COURSE!!

Yes. You can spend it on your retirement fund, invest it, or put it in the bank. You can spend it to send your children to better schools that teach what you want them to know. You can get better health coverage. You can give some money to the charities you want to support. You can do all of the unconstitutional things that the government has illegally stuck their noses into and wrecked. You can buy a new house, car, or other products and services that will stimulate the economy and create a thousand jobs for every "defense" job that would have been created otherwise and people would be free to live thier lives their own way without having their hard-earned income stolen from them and pissed away on unconstitutional social programs.