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Old 02-17-2001, 11:50 PM   #17
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Re: Parking parking parking

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Originally posted by GarlicQueen
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...Remember Phoenixville area suburbs have seen NO housing boom yet while town rush hour traffic already backs up waiting for multiple green lights....
Um, where do you live? I've been here since 1986 and I'd say there has been a *huge* housing boom since then. The "suburbs" of Phoenixville are filled with Sheetrock mansions!

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...Do they plan a highway around the town with convenient off ramps to the business district? ...
Ain't no money in that! Who would pay for the highway and how would it generate revenue for the town?
What you call a boom is what many other regions would call a recession. Philly has had little housing growth which is the only reason highways have not clogged.

There is plenty of money for highways. Just visit PA between Altoona and Pittsburgh - especially the Johnston region. Multiple lane divided highways that have no traffic. Its called incumbants and pork.

Even the Schukyll could be doubled in capacity - except that introverted ostriches have this "we fear to innovate" attitude expressed in lies such as "no room" or "too expensive". The reality is those same attitudes are why the Schukyll Valley Metro will not happen.

Philly has had a rare except to the "we fear" attitude. It is the Regional Rail modification through Center City. In any growing region, such projects occur at least every 10 years. In 30 some years, the PA side of Philly has seen expanded regional rails and the Blue Route. Nothing else. IOW Philly does about 1/2 of what other regions do who want to grow.

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...They now plan to fill this land with office buildings! How are all these office people to get into their offices?...
The thought on the office buildings is that it will create revenue for the town, which everyone has been desperate to do since the steel mill closed. Most of the plans I've seen put in new roads through the steel property -- I really don't see that the office buildings will make traffic any worse than it is now -- it should just re-route it differently.
Phoenixville, last I read a municipality summary, had over $1million is surplus! Those offices and road will only dump more traffic into existing bottlenecks such as where the Pontiac dealer was, the new mismanaged bridge over the Schukyll, and on a road through Valley Forge Park. Last time through Phoenixville, I still could not even see traffic light coordination - and that costs almost nothing. Phoenixville top management and business leaders are its own worst enemy.

An abandoned lumber yard burned down. Perfect. The road out of town should have beelined straight out, up French Creek to join Route 23 and 724 on the West side of town. Instead, the town built more stores and left the same obstructed streets as is.

Currently Phoenixville has no growth so that intersections remain just under capacity. It is the nature of traffic - conjestion is non-linear. It only takes a few more cars to back up traffic for many lights. Rush hour in Phoenixville is already at capacity - and will now become massive conjections if new homes sprout especially West and South.

As noted, if you think they have had growth, then you don't understand what has been happening in growing areas of America over the past 30 years. Phoenixville has had almost no growth - and negative growth compared to most of America.
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