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Old 11-11-2007, 09:08 AM   #90
Radar
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What are toy industry benchmarks begging for? Government regulations. Standards so that their 'fly by night' peers must also protect kids from lead paint and date rape drugs. The most responsible American toy manufactures - those who voluntarily announced dangerous toys as soon as the problem was discovered (ie Mattel) want regulations to create a level and productive free market.
The toy industry does a very good job at regulating itself. They VOLUNTARILY recall toys that do not meet their high standards. Mattel is a great company and is certainly not responsible when people in China don't stick to the standards they've laid out, but they immediately recalled toys and took a hit on their reputation. Government regulatiosn don't give "confidence". Also, claims of "date rape" drugs are false. GHB is not a date rape drug. It's a party drug used by ravers. From what I understand these toys didn't even have GHB on them, they had another chemical that metabolized into GHB when inside the human body.

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If stock markets could exist without regulations, then nobody needs a stock market.
That is 100% False.

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All trading would be on the street.
Again, entirely false. Most people don't want to buy or sell stock with a guy working from the trunk of his car. They want to work with reputable businesses.

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Why do stock markets create so much trading and capital investment? To repeat what you avoid: because without those regulations, then stock trading will halt due to the anarchy.
That is an outright lie. Without government regulations stifling business, the stock markets would continue to exist, see triple their current trading volume, and would have much greater returns on investments.

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If what you are saying had any truth, then all stock markets would fail completely. Stock markets would have no purpose. Why do stock markets exist? Why do commodity exchanges exist? Because productive trading cannot exist without regulations - a standard, level, safe, and predictable trading floor (virtual or real). Anarchy (also called widespread criminal activity) would create near zero trading.
Why do farmer's markets exist? To have a central place where people can buy vegetables from many farms. Stock markets exist so investors have a single place where they can buy or sell stocks from various companies. These would still exist. Trading would easily continue without any government regulations. The trading floor would be MORE predictable, safe, level, and held to better standards without government involvement. Government regulations don't prevent criminal activity, they promote it.

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The only reason stock, bond, commodity, etc markets exist is because that is where the regulations exist and are enforced. Even the private markets demand certain government regulations so that their trading is secure, honest, and liquid.
You're batting a thousand. You are wrong again. You may want to read the writings of famous economists (Several have won the Nobel prize in economists) like Robert J. Barro, Walter Block, James Buchanan, Donald J. Boudreaux, Richard M. Ebeling, David Friedman, Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, Robert Higgs, Israel Kirzner, Ludwig von Mises, Murray N. Rothbard, Mark Skousen, Thomas Sowell, Vernon Smith, Mark Thornton, Richard Timberlake, and Walter Williams. Perhaps then you wouldn't be so clueless when it comes to economics.

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Name one trading exchange that exists without government regulation?
Farmer's Markets, Computer Fairs, Swap Meets, etc.

Also, remember that not having government regulations is not the same as being unregulated. Self-regulation in the markets is what is called for. Government regulations CREATE uncertainty, unfairness, etc. in the markets.
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