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Old 11-05-2007, 01:13 AM   #224
Urbane Guerrilla
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Originally Posted by Aliantha View Post
You do nothing to create empathy among others for Israel or Jews Radar. All you do is create enmity by sermonizing your point which seems to be the same point ad nauseum with different words, while belittling every person who tries to discuss the issue with you.

I wonder why they bother?
I think it's because of a great lack of understanding: they can't understand how wrong they are, siding with the antidemocracy here.

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My theory is that most rational people on this planet realize that there is no absolute right or wrong, and that 'god' didn't give anyone any piece of land and that things change in the world regardless of who likes it and who doesn't, so therefore they feel a moral responsibility to show you the error in your thinking before you, like all other extremists come to a shattering end.
Is this another way of saying to us that extremism in the pursuit of liberty is some kind of vice?

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If Israel is so unwilling to bend then it must surely break. As with Palestine. I really don't care if you think Israel can 'crush' their enemies or not. The fact is, without the US on its side, Israel will more likely be the crushee if it comes to a conflict in the middle east without US and British forces.
Wasn't that way in 1947 or 1956. Any reason to think something fundamental has changed? For that is what it would take. In extremis, Israel will use its nukes on enemy states' population centers, making the peace of the desert. So the enemy states must somehow not provoke Israel's... Shabbos punch.

Quite bluntly, Israel has been willing to bend, and as bluntly, Israel doesn't have a lot of bending room, while the Palestinian Authority's position seems to be that they haven't anything to lose by being unbending. If the fighting were up to Israel and the Palestinians solely, it would have been long over by now. The Palestinians have been kept as a catspaw to conduct a protracted war by proxy. It is easy to see who is keeping the Palestinians without creative options: Jordan and Syria. Lebanon I'm not quite sure whether it's Lebanon or really Syria -- not enough data.
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