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Old 11-04-2007, 01:19 PM   #199
Radar
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Israel is not responsible for the living conditions of their neighbors or their unemployment rates. It sounds like that young man should not live inside of Israel. If he lived outside of Israel in the Palestinian territory, he would not require the permission of the Israeli government to leave the area. I realize this is a catch 22.

There are people right here in America who can't travel either because they have been placed on a list. Of course I am against such policies here or there unless someone has reason to suspect a crime has been committed.

I suspect there is more to your friend's story than you know. The U.K. has been getting tighter with security and it may be blocked on their side without telling your friend.

Those who had homes torn down include both the Israeli Zionists and the so-called Palestinian people. Both have illegally built homes in disputed areas and both have been torn down by the Israeli government. I have never suggested that everything the Israeli government does is right, but everything it does is in its defense because they are under constant threat from their neighbors.

Those who lost homes in 1947, in 1967, or other battles are irrelevant. Israel was legitimately and honestly given land in 1947 and those who lost homes didn't own the land. It's a shame for them, but 60 years should have given them time to get over it. In the 6-day war, Israel was on the DEFENSIVE side of attacks by neighboring countries. In all fairness when Israel won, it could have taken HUGE pieces of land from the losing countries but it didn't. It only took a fairly small amount of land to act as a buffer originally and now uses this land for homes.

Those who lost land in the war have only their own governments to blame.

Israel does not go after women and children. Anyone who says they do is a liar. This is a statement of fact. Israel does all it can to retaliate without harming women and children but the terrorists hide among them. The deaths of those people rest squarely on the heads of those who hid among them to endanger them.

Israel doesn't hand AK-47s to toddlers and tell them the most glorious thing they can do is kill Arabs, but the reverse is true. Israel doesn't blow up crowded shopping malls full of Arab women and children, but the opposite is true. As a rule, Israel doesn't shoot children unless those children have a bomb strapped to them or otherwise pose an immediate danger (guns, slings with rocks, etc). Israel doesn't just randomly attack civilians. It only attacks those who have been involved in the planning or carrying out of attacks or known terrorist groups like Hamas or the PLO.

In stark contrast to the Arabs, Israel uses force only in defense.

Why don't the so-called Palestinians build their own hospitals? Why don't they build their own electrical stations? Why don't they build their own water treatment facilities and pumps?

Those who want to kill the Israelis expect Israel to provide them with water, food, electricity, etc. and call Israel monsters when they are cut off because they won't stop killing Jews or because they choose a terrorist organization to lead them.
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