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Old 11-03-2007, 03:12 PM   #174
Radar
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So the arabs that were booted out NEVER built houses with their own money, on land they were given from the UK, legally and with the knowledge of the UK government?
They built houses with their own money on land they never owned. In fact the UK didn't give any land to those people until 1947. The ones who lived on the wrong side of the line had to move out.

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Oh, and while we're at it, the Diaspora never happened. In fact, when Israel was founded, the Israelis didn't move in on hundreds of boats and planes like we've seen in pictures... they came out of their caves and rose from the mud they'd been hiding in.
Yes, the majority of Jews were not in Israel and came back. But there were always Jews in Israel for every minute of the last 3,000 years. In fact they were the majority for most of those years.


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Unless it's Palestinians, then their 'ownership' is not a right
Wrong. They have a right to private property ownership too. Building a house on someone else's property does not grant you ownership. They can also lose land in military disputes as has happened for thousands of years. When they attack Israel and they lose land, they have no valid complaints.


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So you're saying that of the five or so million folks living in Israel, 125,000-250,000 of them are fighting Israel? Jesus, why aren't they winning!?
Nice try playing with the numbers. We were talking about the numbers among the so-called Palestinian people who do not live within Israel, but fine if you want to talk about the ones who are in Israel we can do that too.

The population of Israel is 6,426,679. Of that 16% are Muslim (1,028,268) people. I said 2-5% of the so-called Palestinian people actively take part in attacks against Jews (whether it's planning, doing paperwork, buying supplies, recruiting kids and teaching them to hate Jews, etc.) 2% of that number is 20,565. I think this is a fair number.

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Here we get to your "If I use your child for a human shield, you're not allowed to get mad" argument.
If it's ok for you to shoot at me because I'm a Zionist, it's equally ok for me to put your child between you and me.


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Because it's the chosen land. Chosen by the UN.
As well they should...and it was the U.K. and the U.N. working together to do the right thing...which they did.
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