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Originally Posted by Radar

False. My argument for Israel becoming a state AGAIN has nothing to do with it being a state earlier, though having a small portion of the land that was historically the homeland of the Jews is cool. My argument for Israel becoming a state was that the rightful owners (the U.K.) GAVE the land to the Jews to build a new homeland in a portion of their historical one.

The so-called Palestinian people did not live there for 3,000 years and most certainly NEVER owned any of the land. If I build a house on your land without your knowledge and live there for 40 years, I don't have any legitimate claim to your land. Also, your laughable claim that the Jews had moved away for 2,000 years is entirely false.

So the arabs that were booted out NEVER built houses with their own money, on land they were given from the UK, legally and with the knowledge of the UK government?

Oh, and while we're at it, the Diaspora never happened. In fact, when Israel was founded, the Israelis didn't move in on hundreds of boats and planes like we've seen in pictures... they came out of their caves and rose from the mud they'd been hiding in.

Originally Posted by Radar

I certainly support private property ownership. In fact, private property ownership is the foundation of all human rights.

Unless it's Palestinians, then their 'ownership' is not a right

Originally Posted by Radar

Your 1 in a thousand numbers are ridiculous. The overwhelming majority of so-called Palestinian people support the murder of Jews, and deny the right of Israel to exist. The number who been involved in planning, assisting, or carrying out attacks against Israeli Jews is closer to 2-5% than 1%.

So you're saying that of the five or so million folks living in Israel, 125,000-250,000 of them are fighting Israel? Jesus, why aren't they winning!?

Originally Posted by Radar

The percentage is irrelevant though. Those who don't take part in the attacks shelter, and protect those who do. This makes them just as guilty as those doing it. The so-called Palestinian people are endangering their own people by hiding among them after attacking Jews.

Here we get to your "If I use your child for a human shield, you're not allowed to get mad" argument.

Originally Posted by Radar

Israel is fully capable of killing each and every single Muslim in the middle-east without any help from America. The only reason Israel doesn't do this is because they aren't interested in conquest, in taking what others have, in killing Muslims, or in doing anything other than living in peace on their own honestly acquired land (all of the land they hold). Israel will do whatever it takes for this to happen, whether they are extending a hand of friendship or a gun to put a bullet through those who would destroy them.

Peace would exist tomorrow if the so-called Palestinians would just stop killing Jews. The problem is they aren't interested in peace. They are only interested in killing Jews and wiping Israel off the map which will NEVER happen. Israel will be around even after America is gone.

Because it's the chosen land. Chosen by the UN.