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Old 11-02-2007, 01:19 PM   #11
Happy Monkey
I think this line's mostly filler.
 
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Originally Posted by Radar View Post
They can call themselves Cherokee or Purple gorillas for all I care. I use the term "American" to describe them because they currently live within the borders of the U.S.A..
And "the Jews" do not currently live within the borders of Israel. Some do, but being Israeli and being Jewish are not the same thing. Also, there are plenty of people who live within the current borders of Israel, and have done so since before Israel, and are not Jewish. So I don't know how your "lived in what became the USA = American" applies to Israel.
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The fact remains that there were people in what is described as "China" long before it was called "China" and those people looked the same and spoke the same language as they do now.
They were many different nations until they were conquered. Once the empire was consolidated, they became Chinese. If the empire hadn't held, they would be many nations.

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Israel is the land of the Jews in the same way that China is the land of Chinese people, Italy is the land of the Italian people, Greece is the land of the Greek, etc.
Israel is the land of the Jews in the same way that Europe is the land of the Christians. They appeared somewhere else, gained political power there, and spread throughout the world. But American Christians have no claim on Rome.
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