[Radar]

In trying Case law part of the decision is whether or not the 16th IS law. The courts have decided that it is, again and again.

They have done so unconstitutionally and without authority to make that decision. The courts don't decide whether an amendment has passed. No court decision can change the number of votes for an amendment or the number required to pass it.

But the only thing keeping you out of jail, really, is the blessed incompetence of the IRS -- not some voodoo misinterpretation of how the law works.

There's no voodoo or misinterpretation. In fact I'm not "interpreting" anything. I am reading the constitution and law as it is written and using the definitions used at the time the laws were written. (see blacks law dictionary)


What's keeping me out of jail is the fact that I know the law, know the limitations on the powers of government, and am educated enough to defend myself well. The IRS doesn't want to go after people who know their rights and who are well-prepared to fight in court. They want to go after easy pickings so they can say they've got more convictions. In short, they know they can't beat me in court because there is no law that makes income taxes mandatory.

You say it was never ratified, but it's clearly in effect. Are you saying it's not?

I'm saying it was never legally ratified and no court decisions to the contrary matter. And the 16th amendment goes directly against the body of the constitution and is therefore null and void according to the supreme court. So yes, I'm saying it's not in effect and that all attempts to force people to pay income taxes are voluntary.

Most people accept the fact that without taxes the government would collapse and the would no longer be a United States.

100% of the constitutional parts of government can be funded by the tariffs and excise taxes already collected. Without income taxes we'd still have roads, we'd still have a military, a judiciary, and America wouldn't collapse. In fact America and our civil liberties would be stronger than ever.

My point is that there has been no great rise against taxation because people understand it's function. So yes, it is the will of the people that there is taxation.

Absolutely false. And if people want to donate their money to government that's up to them but government has no authority to take it from us. And I guarantee you if I took a poll and asked people if they'd like to keep income taxes around or eliminate them the overwhelming majority would choose the latter.

find this interesting since I thought the bitch was "Taxation without Representation," not just not wanting to pay taxes

Do you think the will of the people is being adequately represented by our elected officials? Most people don't including myself.

So either my books in school were intentionally misleading or you are. Somebody has taken to telling half-truths

Look to the government and the collectivists providing you with your obviously poor education.

You say he perjured himself.

Yes, and he committed outright fraud. He falsified the ratification of an amendment. That's not my opinion, it's a fact. Guess what? Congress didn't accept the 16th amendment. If they had, the required number of votes to pass the amendment wouldn't have been short.

And since when do you have to be charged with a crime to have committed it? If I steal something and wasn't charged with a crime are you saying I didn't steal it?

Sorry if it bothers you, but the 16th amendment IS NOT NOW, NOR HAS IT EVER BEEN PART OF THE CONSTITION! None of your false claims or the opinions of all the people in the united states matter on this subject because as I've proven even if the amendment had been legally ratified, the government has no such authority to create it because it derives its power from the people and the people have no such authority to grant to government.

But hey, think whatever you want. I win either way because you're stupidly allowing the government to rob you (nobody has ever provided a distinction between armed robbery and income taxes) while I am living contently and legally by not allowing the government to push me around or to rob me.