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But of course we could talk about the treatment of the Irish by the British if you want to look at a country in the western world who set the standards in modern times for the treatment and torture of prisoners.
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Oh hell yes. We treated them appallingly.
Doesn't in any way alter the fact that America has given up its moral highground on torture, 'disappearances' in the form of extraordinary renditions, and indefinite imprisonment without legal process.