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Old 08-20-2007, 01:24 PM   #73
Spexxvet
Makes some feel uncomfortable
 
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Originally Posted by Clodfobble View Post
...The "fee for service" is actually a valid idea--you are paying for the weekly comfort, the marriage ceremonies, the funerals, the marital counseling, the childcare while you participate...
Around here, you pay additional fees, I mean donation, for a wedding, the minister presiding over the wedding, childcare, etc.

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble View Post
... But forgiveness is absolutely not a function of church attendance or monetary donation, in the Protestant faith at any rate.
Not all Protestant sects are the same. Here's what the Lutherans do:

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Originally Posted by Lutheran congregation
I confess that I am in bondage to sin and cannot free myself. I have sinned against you in thought, word and deed, by what I have done and by what I have left undone. I have not loved you with my whole heart, I have not love my neighbor as myself. For the sake of your son, have mercy on me. Forgive me, renew me and lead me, so that I may delight in your will and walk in your ways, to the glory of your holy name.
This is followed by a declaration from the Pastor (now facing us) to the congregation:

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Originally Posted by Lutheran Pastor
God, who is faithful and just, forgives us all our sins. As a called and ordained minister in the church of Christ, I declare to you the forgiveness of all your sins, in the name of the Father, and the son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen.
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