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Old 08-09-2007, 08:45 AM   #53
spudcon
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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 View Post
Can you give your account on what the situation is like in Iraq then?

I try to get my sources from experts on Iraq or from Iraqis themselves and I realize that this only a small part of the whole scenario. My official position on Iraq as of now is that I have no idea what we should do. I support neither party because both parties are making the same mistakes as Bush by basing their decisions on assumptions.

From what I have read from numerous sources is that if we pull out, Iraq will become a chaotic anarchical state much like Somalia. Also, I haven't seen that we have had much progress in Iraq and I have huge doubts on whether that will change.

The thing that scares me is that the people of Iraq do not trust the government and the police and I do not know if this view is isolated or widespread. This is one of the many bits of information I would need before I could even think of making a decision that could even close to coming out successfully.

Here are two articles that I find at least to be mostly unbiased and somewhat accurate. Comments would be great if you have a different perspective.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle18141.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle18120.htm
As i was reading the first link, I was thinking it sounded suspiciously like the CBS evening news. When I read the stringer, I realized I should have recognized the New York Times propaganda footprint. My understanding, from military sources, is that the surge is working, and if successful, we can push these terrorist bombers out of their hiding places and back to Iran, Syria, and Saudi Arabia where they came from, finally leaving the Iraqis to be able to mend fences, or, fight each other, instead of imported insurgents. I don't think the Iraqis will ever have a democracy like we in the west enjoy, because their culture doesn't allow it. Israel is the only thing close to a democracy in the region.
As far as the link from the dentist in Iraq, I don't know what it proves, other than he is in a war zone. I'm sympathetic, but until his countrymen give up hatred and blaming others, that's how it will be.
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