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					Originally Posted by Undertoad  Group acceptance is such a powerful thing to some people that they just can't get past it.  Do they like me?  I couldn't stand it if they didn't!  Do they want me around?  I really really hope they do! | 
	
 Of course.. this is clear.
But why a particular group?  Am I learning a new skill?  Perhaps there's a group of people who are good at it.  Acceptance by this group would validate my new-found skills.  Perhaps there's a group with a lot of power at my job.  Acceptance by this group would mark me as a prime candidate for a promotion.  Perhaps there's a group of guys that seem to attract a lot of hot babes.  Acceptance by this group would make it easier for me to score.
What does acceptance by The Cellar grant?  Why should a newbie care?  If you walk into a restaurant and see a table with 10 people, all strangers to you, all having a good time, do you have a desire to sit down, join them, and become part of the group?  How is this like, and not like, a new poster approaching The Cellar?
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					Originally Posted by lumberjim  how about 'cocksmith'? | 
	
 That anvil's gonna hurt really bad.