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Originally posted by tw
Why do they not so concern you? If absolutes don't apply to these events, then why demand absolutes on Iraq? Accusations against Iraq have equal or less credibility than all those above violations. What make Iraq different? Saddam.

Precisely. Saddam.

What did Hans Blix say? He will solve the problem but he needs time.

But don't you see? Powell's report completely invalidated the entire inspections process. 24 hours before inspectors were to be on site, sites were cleared out.

The inspections process was compromised to begin with. Giving it more time is insane. "Doubling" and "tripling" a compromised process is a bad joke.

Which is where we bring slang back in. International relations is the best place for a conspiracy theorist to live, because half of the conspiracies are actually true - a far better hit rate than the domestic. Powell is the most credible man in the US. His report was termed absolutely credible by ex-intel guy Ralph Peters today. Nobody but the Iraqis are saying it's fake. So here's the money question: Who tipped off the Iraqis to the inspection sites?

Doesn't it bother you that it's quite possible that the security of the US has been compromised by forces inside the UN? Oh right, you're the guy who isn't even moved by attempted assassination of a former president - it's completely allowed, if tw doesn't like 'em!

US governement will not even give Blix full information to do his job. Of course not.

Of COURSE not, because they knew when he asked for assistance that the inspections process was compromised, and to give specific information to the inspectors involves burning valuable intelligence sources. (Where "burning" may be, quite literally - Saddam leaves the torture work to his sons and apparently they are very creative. Where do you think the guy is who made that wireless phone call we intercepted?)

Stop applying a double standard to UN resolutions. If you want absolutes, then first demand an attack on Israel for their repeated and direct violations of UN resolutions.

You really want the end of the UN, don't you? I thought I was alone in that thinking, but what you're asking for would in fact be the final nail in the coffin of the UN.

And you keep talking in terms of "absolutes". The "smoking gun" absolute is the one you're hung up on. Get over it. Saddam has killed people, is killing a TON of people right now, and is planning to kill more.

The intelligence information that we have been privy to is a fraction of what's actually out there. Having to trust the government is one of the strangest feelings I've ever had. I don't like it one bit. If they fucked it up, I will be livid. On the other hand, while we can't see what we can't see, but the stuff we have seen is plenty bad.

Get over it man. I'm no Bush guy. This is bigger than Bush.