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jaguar · 01-18-2003, 12:53 AM

The US can take a military approach to the DPRK, it simply is not as 'easy' as it is in Iraq. That was my point.
As for pissing people off, bombing the fuck out of Iraq is going to whip half of the Middle East into an anti-USA frenzy - Saddam has been smart and made himself into the hero of both the Palestinians and Islam, it's pretty obvious why. Of course there isn't as much trade between most of the middle easy and the USA as there is between ROK and USA.

When you bomb shit you're always going to piss someone off, personally I think both military options are fucking stupid and demonstrate a horrible lack of foresight and thinking.

Chemical munitions...The weapons by all accounts were produced for use during the Iraq-Iran war - the same time the US was giving material aid in the form of both chemical and biological material to Iraq. According to some articles the warheads were imported(please note - none of the articles contradict this, some just don't mention it), but no one is saying where from. I'm a cynic. Join the dots. Maybe they were, maybe they were not, if they were, it's bloody ironic.

The other issue is the number of them, the prestigious sounding Center for Defense Information, a Washington think tank seem to think Iraq has 25000 rockets designed for Chem payloads. 11 here and 11 there is hardly going to make up 25000. Never assume something is cunning deception when it could quite easily be sheer stupidity and mis-management. 11 shells is a disused section of a munitions storehouse dating form 20 odd years ago is hardly solid proof of an active and large weapons development and production program.

Look personally I would not be surprised if Iraq had a very large and active dev program, I’d be quite surprised if they didn't. On the other hand they quite possibly have been smart, and don't. The point is this is no smoking gun, and as an excuse to wipe out a country and absorb it into empire Americana, it's pretty fucking lame.

01-18-2003, 12:53 AM	#15
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	The US can take a military approach to the DPRK, it simply is not as 'easy' as it is in Iraq. That was my point. As for pissing people off, bombing the fuck out of Iraq is going to whip half of the Middle East into an anti-USA frenzy - Saddam has been smart and made himself into the hero of both the Palestinians and Islam, it's pretty obvious why. Of course there isn't as much trade between most of the middle easy and the USA as there is between ROK and USA. When you bomb shit you're always going to piss someone off, personally I think both military options are fucking stupid and demonstrate a horrible lack of foresight and thinking. Chemical munitions...The weapons by all accounts were produced for use during the Iraq-Iran war - the same time the US was giving material aid in the form of both chemical and biological material to Iraq. According to some articles the warheads were imported(please note - none of the articles contradict this, some just don't mention it), but no one is saying where from. I'm a cynic. Join the dots. Maybe they were, maybe they were not, if they were, it's bloody ironic. The other issue is the number of them, the prestigious sounding Center for Defense Information, a Washington think tank seem to think Iraq has 25000 rockets designed for Chem payloads. 11 here and 11 there is hardly going to make up 25000. Never assume something is cunning deception when it could quite easily be sheer stupidity and mis-management. 11 shells is a disused section of a munitions storehouse dating form 20 odd years ago is hardly solid proof of an active and large weapons development and production program. Look personally I would not be surprised if Iraq had a very large and active dev program, I’d be quite surprised if they didn't. On the other hand they quite possibly have been smart, and don't. The point is this is no smoking gun, and as an excuse to wipe out a country and absorb it into empire Americana, it's pretty fucking lame. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain Last edited by jaguar; 01-18-2003 at 12:58 AM.