[Sundae]

I believe that humans are naturally greedy - nature supports this.

But I don't believe that contributing to society, to community is theft. I don't believe in extreme forms of socialism, where people are not left with any benefits from their own work. But I also do not believe that leaving those incapable (for whatever reason) to support themselves in conditions of squalour (in developed countries) or to die (in undeveloped countries) is theft.

I have no religion and I'm quite hard when it comes to the sanctity of human life, but I believe people should be given a living chance. I believe in charity, but I also believe people should sometimes be obliged to give for the greater good. I think many posters here will disagree fundemantally.

In a trite analogy - I haven't paid UT a penny since coming here. But I have £20 ($40) which comes out of my bank account every payday to Save the Children and Help the Aged. I also give spare change to any charity around when I have it (have mentioned before, was brought up on the Gospel of St Matthew).

I'm not suggesting UT is a charitable cause, but he wasn't in my face. I've benefited from his community without contributing. I will in future. That's not theft. I appreciate it's not set up in a socialist way (enter your salary, we will bill your card the appropriate amount). But neither is it capitalist - which is a world which wants to exclude people like me who are basically honest, but pure dreadful with money.