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Originally Posted by yesman065
Aren't we as humans responsible for each other? Is it right for us to knowingly sit by and let innocent people be tortured and killed? At what point do we have some sort of moral responsibility to help?
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Only if those people want what we are trying to "help" them with

We fucked-over the only people who were willing to fight Saddam the first time. We promised to take him out and we LIED, Bush Sr. knew he was lying and knew he was going to abandon them to death and torture. It is why so many of the Army and Marine senior staff quit after Desert Storm... they were humiliated at being told to lose that war and leave their rebel partners to be hunted down like animals. A black spot on our history we can never live down. Typical Bush family. That whole line about taking him out harming "relations" with the neighbors is Bull-Shit, pure Bull-Shit.
This time, there was no uprising, we are not being helped by massive popular support. If so the locals would have narced out all of the insurgents and we would have them all by now... but we do not because we are not welcome because we are imperial invaders and need to get out.
Iraq, this time, was not the "bleeding man on the street" scenario and they were not a threat to us... it was all lies and still is.
Sure, if there is a popular uprising against a tyrant, help em' out, but we should not be creating them... no.
Again, there is not a nation out there that the people cannot remove the government if they
choose/want to. What we know is often not scary enough to get us to act to wards the unknown fear. Still no excuse.
Democracy is a terrible government... I am very glad the US is not one.