*straps on Kevlar fire suit and wades into the fray*
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You don't seem to understand: The Israelis had no business being there. None. Whatsoever.
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I seem to remember Jewish people have been round that area...oh.....3000 odd years...
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Gulf War syndrome. *blows his top* Fucking Americans, this is the same as Vietnam, wade into somewhere, get nasty, sue nasty weapons, give their own troops radioactive armor then when they come back and sue make front page over it. NEVER MIND THE PEOPLE STILL THERE. Want me to post some pics of Iraqi kids with cancers destroying their eyes? Or the astronomical cancer/leukemia rates, or the lack of food?
50,000 US soldiers died in Vietnam, 3 MILLION VIETNAMESE DIED and millions more have been born deformed, lost limbs to landmines not to mention emotional/mental damage.
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dhamsaic thanks for that link - cleared things up for me a bit.
Seems to me that unless something is done *fast* this is never going to be solved.
a: People will refuse to compromise after a few more of these attacks and assassinations by BOTH sides.
b: A wise man once said about the Balkans trouble that the only way to solve it is to shoot all the grandmothers. Until you stop generation after generation being indoctrinated in hate (BOTH sides) this will continue to happen.
On one side I have to say arguing whether the state of Israel has a right to exist or not is pretty pointless - like arguing whether globalization should happen. It’s not WHETHER it happens, its how.
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But what is the Israeli incentive to compromise? They have all the trump cards: 7 Billion (last I checked) per year in direct US subsidies, the most modern weaponry (including stolen nukes and a guaranteed support base in the US (how many US legislators are Jewish? how many media outlets are Jewish-owned?).
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Well I’m not sure whether you've ever lived in total fear but personally I wouldn't like to be wondering whether the Palestinian standing over there has a few kilos of C4 and ball bearings strapped to him or not. It is the same tactic used by the IRA in the 80s, mass bombings across Brittan, it scared the living shit out of the British because it brought something that they read about in the newspaper and didn't give a fuck about into their lives in a very scary way.
Xugumad, while what you are saying has some merit you’re missing a few points, I mean you could say well gee, Mecca was pretty important a few thousand years ago, fuck the fact it’s still holy they don't need that bit of land. That area is holy to the Jews, don’t overlook that. As well as that Israel is no struggling on-the-brink-of-poverty state, while they work closely with the US, and sure, get some cash, a:7billion is reality is not that much, look at the size of the us budget, in TRILLIONS, get the picture? Israel is a world leader in high tech development, where do you think ICQ came from? A new type of metal press that takes up 1/10th of the space, much highly advanced military hardware of their own all which they export, and this is just a small sample.
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The formerly oppressed Jews have instituted a racist and authoritarian regime, oppressing the Palestinians in one of the most ironic tragedies of the last century.
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That I have to agree with though.
Give back the west bank and Gaza to the Palestinians and share control of Jerusalem and stop killing. Even the fanatics would die down without public support; the majority of Palestinians just want to live their lives in peace.
Yes there are some flaws in this post – I know some of you addressed issues I pointed out but I’m in a hurry and just *couldn’t* resist