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Old 12-23-2006, 09:30 AM   #56
Phil
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Roman Catholic theologian
Musings of a Jewish philosopher, 200/250 years BC.

This is the basis of the oppression of women?


How were these women accused? Who pointed the finger and called them witches? Women, in most cases. For reasons of their own, most likely catty, insignificant reasons, women hurled accusations at each other providing fuel for the trials. True, but this is sociological, not theological.You're mixing apples and oranges and plums and grapes. Not every US against THEM, that happened in history is the responsibility of the church just because they were present. We have chaplains in the military but that doesn't make the church responsible for wars we fight. Yes, I know, they started plenty of their own wars..... that doesn't negate my point.

Speaking of war, the battle of the sexes predates all the religions. Men had been fighting the battle of the sexes for thousands of years, because women don't want men to do what they want to do.
Religions, founded by men, were another male dominated organization, but it's funny, women used the church and it's social structure to control men's behavior with ever increasing effectiveness. Women "civilized" the frontiers, smoothed the cultural rough edges and generally made men behave, by way of the church, because it was the only organization they were allowed to join, the only place they were allowed to congregate and conspire.

all very good points, but still doesnt lessen the impact of oppression and subjugation against women, whether by pre-christianity, or any other organised religion which has survived to today. lets face it, the womens' role in the church has been flower arranging and organising tea parties for fundraising.
are you aware of the lost gospels? e.g., the gospel according to Mary, which, among 20 odd other gospels were omitted from the bible by the council of micea, because it did not want Mary's (and others) words to be part of Jesus' teachings, hence the MEN cast her as a prostitute.
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