[elSicomoro]

(Apologies to those that read this earlier before I revised it.)

Originally posted by Cairo
Such as revising the Bible so it's more gender friendly

The Bible may be a book of history to you...it's a book of faith to me. The Bible is incredibly subjective, depending upon the religion and the person, so it's unfair to include it in this argument.

revising Texas History so it doesn't hurt hispanic children's feelings

I've found in my own studies that the US pulled some neat stunts in taking Texas. The Gadsden Purchase was slick too. Oh, and don't forget Hawaii. You can call it "revisionism" if you like; I call it "looking at a situation from multiple perspectives and coming to a reasonable conclusion."

Even if the revisions are being done so that the information "doesn't hurt hispanic children's feelings," we can all benefit from multiple perspectives of history...whether you like it or not, it can only enhance your knowledge. A perfect example of this is the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

Next you'll tell me how romantic Manifest Destiny was...

revising that Thomas Jefferson raped and produced children with a slave, when DNA proved otherwise

I've never heard it described as a rape, though I wouldn't be surprised if it were.

And while I have heard some say that the deed was done (though I only saw some minor media attention given to the outcome of the DNA tests), the only definite link is that a male descendant of Sally Hemings has the same Y-chromosome DNA as the Jefferson males.

I'm not sure what you mean by "otherwise." The DNA tests didn't prove that Tommy Boy was the father of Eaton Hemings, but he can't be ruled out.

The folks that run the Monticello say this: "The Thomas Jefferson Foundation stands by its original findings - that the weight of evidence suggests that Jefferson probably was the father of Eston Hemings and perhaps the father of all of Sally Hemings' children" (Source)

All in all, I'd say it certainly deserves some historical mention, just as the Clinton-Lewinsky deal does as well.

I can tell you how I reached my opinion that bin Laden is dead...

Whoa! Hold on here...

Originally posted by Cairo on 12/4/2002
Our forces killed bin Laden during the attack on Tora Bora. Bin Laden is dead, but Al Qaeda is not.

I don't know what they taught you in school, but most people would call the above quote a statement of fact. There is no "I think," "I believe," etc. in your statement, which would then make it a statement of opinion.

So, are you now saying that it is your opinion that bin Laden is dead?

If it seems like I'm not taking you seriously Cairo, it's because I don't. You come across like Ann Coulter or Jerry Falwell, both of whom are out-of-touch nutjobs, IMO.

You are more than welcome to embrace hard conservative views with open arms if you wish...that's your right. However, understand that almost everything here at the Cellar is subject to incredible scrutiny. Particularly when "outlandish" claims and statements are made. Hard lefters get their asses checked too, so don't try and cry a liberal bias.