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Originally Posted by Flint
I understand what you mean, but you're making an assumption that the criticism is made out of ignorance, aren't you?
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Selective hearing and willful ignorance, many times. Perhaps the unwillingness to expand the discussion beyond the framework of one's prejudices. Both sides can be guilty of this, but I make every effort not to be.
There is a point beyond which there are no further points to be made, though -- that's often misconstrued as victory or defeat for one side of the argument or the other. For me, that point in the argument is: "Do you believe Jesus said this, and if so, was he truthful?" One can manufacture all kinds of reasoning that skirts that question or attempts to apply hidden meaning to his words, or tries to dilute them with modern sensibilities. But if I have a cop-out, that's it: At some point, you have to argue with Christ, not with me. I can't make his arguments as eloquently as he can, and I can't explain the things that he didn't explain himself. Otherwise, I'd have my own bible. I haven't fulfilled many 700 year old prophecies lately, though.