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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Inside my home, uninvited & unannounced, and outside stealing a wagon are two, ridiculously, different situations.
As someone said before, you just try to take a harmless situation and try to make it sound like someone is going to get shot for it.
It is a joke, as are your arguments.

Were you joking, flaming, or trolling, when you posted:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

The way I look at it is that I don't know that a criminal is not going to kill me. My life and the life of my family is not worth that gamble under any circumstances. The criminal chooses to place themselves in the situation where I have to decide to trust that they are not going to kill my family or I... I don't trust that and would be a bad husband and father if I trusted them more than my instincts and logic.
Logic says if they are a threat you must eliminate it in the most efficient and final way possible so the threat does not return so my I and/or my family no longer has to deal with said threat. It is simple.

There’s nothing about inside/outside your home. It’s all tough talk about protecting yourself and your family. In this instance, do you trust that the criminal is not going to kill you? Maybe he doesn’t want a witness, and won’t let you walk/run away.

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

You never know if you are going to be allowed to "walk/run away". Of that you have to "trust them" and I am not willing to do that with someone I already know is immoral & has a vested interest in not allowing me to do so, nope.

Reach down between your legs. Do you feel anything there? Any balls? You’ve insinuated that you would use your gun to “eliminate” a threat. You’ve said

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I am not going to ask to see their weapon

And yet you wouldn’t do anything about the guy stealing your son’s wagon. Hmmmmm. Would you even have the gun in your hand when you walked out of your house, or would you be a sitting duck, for the criminal to gun down?

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

must eliminate it in the most efficient and final way possible

Either have the balls to back up your words, or stop talking tough.

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

If someone is in someone's home, they are there to do harm, period. It is that homeowner's job to assume so, for the sake of their family.
If I was outside and I realized that there was someone in my empty house I would not run in and shoot them just because of my stuff... and you know that. You know what my argument is, but you are a fanatic and are just twisting words to try to make a point you know you are losing on.
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All these threads have some pretty tough talk about having guns to protect yourselves, your family and your stuff - about killing criminals. But when push comes to shove, and I ask you (the collective you) to put your balls on the line and declare exactly what would make you shoot someone, the excuses and hedging comes out. “in the house is different than outside the house”, “I didn’t feel like my life was threatened so I didn’t draw my gun”, “I’m not going to answer your question, I’ll just keep throwing up straw men to evade the point”.

Tough talk, for a bunch of Maries.