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Originally Posted by MaggieL

What part of "asymmetrical" don't you understand? Issuing such fatwas as these doesn't make someone a soldier, it only makes their violent intensions explicit.

Using an adjective changes nothing. It is still called 'war'. The Constitution does not require any adjectives. Having made a major admission - having admitted 'they' declared war - now you want to change (spin) your proclamations?

Oh, and another thing: once again I'll thank you too refrain from telling me what I've "admitted", particularly when you do so to put your own words in my mouth to construct yet another of your famous straw men.

MaggieL - I post blunt, factually, and (because I have no political allegiance) honestly. As so many here should appreciate, my principles of American justice run deep and are based in numerous layers of underlying facts. And I include those reasons in every post; no soundbyte cracks as you are now posting.

Reality is: you advocate kidnapping, secret prisons, violations of Universal Human Rights, wiretapping without judicial review, Congressional bill S3930, violation of the Geneva Convention article three, and torture. Your contempt for the rights of foreign citizens is particularly odious. Foreign citizens are denied even access to the International Red Cross or judicial review under a law that you approve. You advocate the "Spanish Inquisition" of anyone who is not an American citizen. I never expected that of you and only realized recently the depth of your "Spanish Inquisition" principles.

Meanwhile you said, intentionally, to make your point:

To make matters worse, the people in question have declared war on us. (See various fatwas, etc.) This is "asymmetrical warfare" in more ways than one. . These enemies don't *need* to be a nation to wage war, and it is to their advantage not to be.

They "declared war on us" is your statement - no matter how you deny it. If war was declared, then their people are soldiers. Your petticoat is showing.

Sophomoric are these principles: contradictory posts and advocacy of torture, international kidnapping, the "Mission Accomplished" war, secret prison, destruction of Human Rights, violations of the Geneva Convention ... and insistence that the Geneva Convention need not apply because it is not part of the US Constitution. MaggieL - if you were not advocating concepts so common in a venomous dictatorship, then I would not be calling you out like this. No emotion. Blunt, factual, honest, and American principles also question your loyalty to a mental midget president.

You still insist that war must be conducted against nations, even after the US Constitution was quoted. Right out of the Constitution; war is not limited to nations. "Unlawful enemy combatant" is just another excuse to promote kidnapping, wiretapping, secret prisons, and torture. To suspend Writ of Habeas Corpus. To deny them rights afforded by the US Constitution and international law. They declared war on us. You now deny it? Fine. Then according to Article 1 of the US Constitution, Writ of Habeas Corpus cannot be suspended as S3930 does. MaggieL endorses S3930. People still have rights under the Geneva Convention and Universal Declaration for Human Rights - no matter how a political agenda rationalizes contrarian.

To every non-American Cellar Dweller. S3930 says you can be kidnapped from your own country (extraordinary rendition), be taken for torture to Guantanamo or other secret American prisons, and neither the International Red Cross nor US Supreme Court can come to your defense. Anyone need ask why I am being so blunt?