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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
Women want to sleep with men. They want to hang out with women. If you are the sexless, safe shopping buddy, it's because you're pretending to be a woman in order to make her feel comfortable. Whether or not you're trying to sleep with her is a separate issue.
The fact is, if you are "best friends" with most women, it's either because you have turned into enough of a chick that she doesn't see you as male, or she enjoys the schadenfreude of walking around in your cloud of pheromones pretending not to notice. There are occasions where other psychological factors come into play, e.g., one or the other acts as a parent figure or is gay, but not usually.
The physical attractiveness of the players doesn't matter. "Best friend" types tend to be similar to one another, and sexual attraction is bound to be tied up in there somewhere, even if it has been buried for the sake of "saving the friendship".
Women, stop pretending that you are surprised to discover that your male friend is not, in fact, a woman in disguise. Men, stop the madness. If you set yourself up to be a genderless drone to get closer to a woman you like, you are lying to yourself and her.
Men and women are programmed to bump uglies with each other, and this utopian idea that we can shut off that urge and all be one big happy ball of platonic oneness is absurd.
No, I haven't dated in awhile. Why do you ask?
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I happen to like to shop.
I happen not to have tried to fuck every women I am attracted to every chance I got because if they were fun to hang-out with, that can be cool as well.
I am a man and always have been. The women in my life have always been very satisfied and the current one still is.
I also got laid plenty... when I realized a chick was putting me in the "nice guy" role, that I liked, I called her on it. We became friends or I stopped seeing her... but the game stopped.
Men who think that "this" is manly and "that" is not... need therapy.
I have several women who are friends... men who cannot be friends with a women... need therapy.
If you can't compromise and shop (or anything else) with her while she does things you like to do, don't bitch when your relationship goes in the crapper.