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Old 08-14-2006, 01:36 PM   #194
tw
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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer
I tracked down the answers to a bunch of his questions regarding Hamas and Hezbollah expecting the them to have an effect on my opinion,
Answer was never intended to affect your opinion. Answer was to teach you about yourself. The difference between Hamas and Hezbollah are so massive that the difference should have been common knowledge. Since you had to 'track down the answer', then your knowledge of the Middle East - of facts and trends most relevant - is near zero. You don’t yet have about one decade worth of learning to have a grasp of the Middle East. It is fabulously complex. You have a vast ignorance of the entire region if you did not know, immediately, the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah. You have a Daily News, Fox News perspective which means you have not yet started to learn.

Imagine someone who claims to know all about America and yet does not even know who Abraham Lincoln is. That is 9th Engineer in the Middle East.

Someone who does not even know the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah is then fodder for propagandists - ie AIPAC. Do you see AIPAC spin every week? Or again, is your grasp of the region so minimal that you don't even know the difference between AIPAC spin verses reality? Not knowing the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah also means you have no idea why, for example, kidnapping two Israeli soldiers is no different from a crash on the mid-town expressway. Welcome to a region where all parties are that immoral or that jaded. Where lies (political spin) is normal because all sides are so far apart.

Politicians in the region are so far apart as to speak even nonsense rhetoric - for example Israel should be moved to Europe. They don't really think this. It is how you measure your political adversary - how you measure whether he wants to talk or instead wants to hype on that political fiction. Welcome to the Middle East where so many Americans cannot even see through the Hezbollah propaganda of 'destruction of Israel' which is nothing more than a bargaining chip and rhetoric to hype your less intelligent extremist supporters. And yet those in America who have no grasp – don’t even know the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah – could never understand what is an honest point of conflict and what his propaganda hype. Everyone in the Middle East – even Israel – routinely hypes nonsense.

The fact that you had to look up Hamas and Hezbollah means you can not even see through propaganda from AIPAC – or even know what is AIPAC and Christian Zionist spin. The fact that you had to look up Hamas and Hezbollah says you don’t yet have a clue about mostly everything in the region.

Try learning some perspective. You have about 10 years of learning ahead of you. Robert Baer’s books might be a good beginning. Or read the Economist – every issue every week. You have not yet started to learn about the Middle East – because you did not even know something as fundamentally equivalent as “the House of Representatives verses the Senate”.

Last edited by tw; 08-14-2006 at 01:49 PM.
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