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Old 08-08-2006, 12:48 AM   #57
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Appreciate why so many Americans are dropping in science and math literacy. A recent study of education in America found that private schools are not doing as well as public schools. And that largest, most obvious drop is the math skills of evangelical school students.

So I decided to see what is taught in a Christian College. No math abilities is made woefully obvious. Some examples:
Northwest Christian college
http://www.nwcc.edu/programs/majors.html:
Bible & Christian Ministry Studies
Bible & Theology
Biblical Studies
Christian Theology
Christian Ministries
Missions/Global Ministries
Pastoral Ministry
Youth Ministry
Business Administration
Communication
Exercise Science
Journalism
Speech Communication
Computer and Information Science (CIS)
General Studies
Global Studies
Human Services
Humanities
Interdisciplinary Studies (Individualized)
Music
Pre-Professional Health Sciences
Psychology
Social Sciences
Teacher Education

http://www.occ.edu/Academics/OCC.Degrees.aspx
Ozark Christian College
Bachelor of Theology(5-yearDegree)
Majors include: Preaching, Ministry, Christian Education, Old Testament, New Testament, Missions, Music
Bachelor of Christian Ministry (4-year degree)
Specializations include: Adult Discipleship, Ministry, Campus Ministry, Child Care Ministry, Children’s Ministry, Church Planting Ministry, Cross-Cultural Family Ministry, Preaching Ministry, Student Ministry, TESOL Ministry, Women’s Ministry, Double Major in Bible and Psychology, Double Major in Bible and Missions, Double Major in Bible and Deaf Ministry
Bachelor of Music and Ministry (4-year degree)
Bachelor of Music and Worship (4-year degree)
Bachelor of Bible and Ministry (2-year degree, requires previously earned bachelor’s degree)
Bachelor of Bible and Missions (2-year degree, requires previously earned bachelor’s degree)
Associate


Dallas Christian College
http://www.dallas.edu/Degrees/degrees.htm
BS-BIBLE AND GENERAL STUDIES
BA-BIBLE AND GENERAL STUDIES
BS-BIBLE & PSYCHOLOGY
BA-BIBLE & PSYCHOLOGY
BS-BIBLE & PREACHING
BA-BIBLE & PREACHING
BA-BIBLE & YOUTH FAMILY MINISTRY
BS-BIBLE & YOUTH FAMILY MINISTRY
BS-BIBLE & CROSS CULTURAL MISSIONS
BA-BIBLE & CROSS CULTURAL MISSIONS
BS-BIBLE & CHRISTIAN EDUCATION
BA-BIBLE & CHRISTIAN EDUCATION
BS-BIBLE & MUSIC MINISTRY
BA-BIBLE & WORSHIP AND YOUTH MINISTRY
BS-BIBLE & WORSHIP AND YOUTH MINISTRY
BA-BIBLE & WORSHIP ARTS
BS-BIBLE & WORSHIP ARTS
BA-BIBLE & BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION
BS-BIBLE & BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION

EDUCATION DEGREES
BS-BIBLE & EDUCATION ENGLISH SPECIALIZATION
BS-BIBLE & EDUCATION HISTORY SPECIALIZATION
BS-BIBLE & EDUCATION ENGLISH & HISTORY SPECIALIZATION
BS-BIBLE & MUSIC EDUCATION

QUEST DEGREES
BA-MINISTRY & LEADERSHIP
BS-MINISTRY & LEADERSHIP
BA-MANAGEMENT & ETHICS
BS-MANAGEMENT & ETHICS
BS-EDUCATION & ETHICS, ELEMENTARY
BS-EDUCATION & ETHICS, SECONDARY


Great Lakes Christian College
http://www.glcc.edu/academics/degreeprograms.php
Bible/Theology Major
Christian Education Major
Christian Ministries Major
Cross-Cultural Ministry Major
Family Life Education Major
History Major
Interpersonal and Organizational Communication Major
Music Major
Psychology/Counseling Major
Youth Ministry Major


History major has 14 history classes, lots of bible classes, no math, no chemistry, no physics, no biology. Only math course offered in the entire school is an introduction to statistics and something called Quantitative Literacy which reads like junior high school math ("apply mathematical reasoning in the everyday world"). Biology is Biological Foundations of Nutrition and General Biology. One general science course called Physical Science: "A survey of the nature of matter and the basic laws describing its behavior as revealed through a study of chemistry, physics, astronomy, and earth science."

Nowhere did I find any courses considered minimally necessary when I went to school. A common factor in all such schools - it teaches how to maintain a status quo existence without questioning anything. Nothing sufficient (as science teaches) to push out the envelope - to test and experiment - to question. No wonder these religious fanatics know things only because they just know. There are no courses that teach how to learn a fact. Just more bible classes.

So I went to a local Christian College. Math is called Business Math - basically how to add and subtract for book keeping. Courses were mostly about the bible, communication courses (necessary to promote propaganda), and basic health courses (how to keep yourself alive with the right foods). Nothing on how to learn new ideas. No college level math courses of any kind. No laboratory sciences necessary to become a lab technician, scientific researcher, skilled designer, or anything else that America desperately needs. Just things necessary to found new churches, promoate propaganda, recruit, pay the bills, and maintain a status quo.

Even tech schools teach more useful concepts. Given what Evangelicals are taught, then they must believe only what they have been told. They have no tools necessary to question. These courses teach how to blindly follow only what has been told and not how to test or question so as to learn newly discovered god's laws. Good luck tryng to change evangelicals. How do you un-brainwash someone when they never learned how to think for themselves?
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