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Originally Posted by MaggieL

My answer to "Why are there illegal aliens in the US?" was "Because there's poverty in Mexico". My answer to "Why is illegal immigration necessary?" was "It isn't necessary".

Well, if immigration is not necessary, then why must millions suffer so much only for jobs? Why are those same jobs not created where these same people already live? Why does Jose Mexicana take great risks, spend massive sums, leave their families, etc only because they want to make life harder? No. Immigration is made necessary by economic conditions where free markets (ie NAFTA) are mostly still mythical.

Yes, poverty is a reason they are leaving. But poverty is only a symptom. Why are countries (so full of resources) not able to create jobs for their people? Poverty does not exist on its own. Poverty is created; poverty is only a symptom.

Originally Posted by The Economist

Burgernomics is based on the theory of purchasing-power parity, the notion that a dollar should buy the same amount in all countries. Thus in the long run, the exchange rate between two countries should move towards the rate that equalises the prices of an identical basket of goods and services in each country.

That assumes free markets exist. But the dollar does not buy same in both NAFTA countries. Forces (not evil because evil has no existence in a real world) forces in America pervert free market economics. Whereas the Big Mac is $3.15 in the US, the same Big Mac is only $2.66 in Mexico. Free markets - as NAFTA was suppose to create - does not exist. If a free market really existed, then the dollar would be approximately same in both nations. Free markets that would eliminate poverty just do not exist.

At $2.66, then Mexico is a superior place to create jobs - employ those exact same people. Why are those same people (who are so productive in the US) not employed in same jobs in Mexico? US firms could easily make jobs where their employees live? Mexico having superior climate for many agricultural products, then why can Jose Mexicana not start his own farm?

Again, the United States has perverted free markets. WTO has repeatedly ruled against America, time after time, for violations of World Trade agreements. A latest violation being steel - intentionally created by George Jr's administration to pervert free market economics. So how many people even heard of the massive world wide walkout in Cancun because the US and France were opposed to free trade. How many somehow know Jose Mexicana is a victim of his own making rather than learn that America has become so anti-free trade?

Why, if their ppp index is so low - and therefore a perfect place to create new jobs - complete with an economy full of people who need jobs - then why does the US not create jobs there? In a free market, America would create jobs where impoverished and productive people live.

NAFTA is suppose to be about free trade between US, Canada, and Mexico. Then why did the US close borders to Canadian lumber for so many years? America restarted that trade only after Canada - under American pressure - agreed to impose tariffs on its own exporters. Why is that called free trade? Of course every lurker here knows that story? If not, well, how anti-free trade is America? Do you really know?

How can poverty exist in Mexico if NAFTA is one big free trading zone? It cannot. As burgernomics demonstrates, Mexico is clearly economically better to make things - $3.15 in US and only $2.66 in Mexico. Same productive people who would rather have jobs at home only need those jobs where they live. Due to American laws, many of those jobs cannot go to the workers. Illegal immigration made necessary by a nation that promotes the propaganda of free trade and makes laws against it.

Amazing how those who blame Jose Mexicana somehow forget why that poverty exists. Burgernomics demonstrates why those poverty regions should be home to so many new jobs.

And if that were not bad enough, what happens when Castro dies. Suddenly we have a whole new influx of Cubans also seeking jobs. Do we fix American laws before the problem gets worse? Or do we instead blame Jose Mexicana AND Carlos Cubana for being victims?

Give George Jr credit. His heart is in the right place when he talks about illegal immigration. To neocons, he sounds like a very lefty liberal. But his actions are completely devoid of useful objectives. George Jr's supporter get rich when free trade is restricted in their favor (ie tariffs). Review massive bonuses given to the only reason why America steel manufacturers are so bad. Top steel management gets rich when America restricts free trade for the advantage of overpaid and anti-American corporate management (not to be confused with other industries chock full of patriotic management).

Government can create problems - not solve them. Illegal immigration is a classic example of a problem created (in part) by government. If government cannot eliminate problems it creates and impose on Jose Mexicana, then what will government do when Carlos Cubana joins the influx?

Why does poverty exist? Are these same so productive people the reason for poverty at home? Of course not. Not for one minute. And yet so many Americans still believe this myth that free trade economics exists between America and its neighbors. Not for one minute which is why illegal immigration is obviously necessary. Poverty is a symptom (in part) of anti-free market laws. Poverty is only a symptom of the same reasons why illegal immigration is necessary.

Is this long? Of course. If it was short, then it would be lies (half truths) for Daily News readers – who actually believe America has promoted free markets this century. The question asks why illegal immigration exists and is necessary. The answer is (in part) in economic conditions that so many American don’t even know exist. Americans so ill informed as to not even know of that massive world wide walkout in Cancun. American so ill informed as to have trouble with a simple question: why does this illegal immigration exist? Why does free market economics not create new jobs in a fellow NAFTA nation? Are you ready when Carlos Cubana joins the influx? It’s only going to get worse if we American don’t address our anti-free market attitudes – and start asking some other embarrassing questions.