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Old 05-20-2006, 05:16 PM   #82
MaggieL
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Originally Posted by tw
"Why does massive illegal immigration exists and why is it so necessary?"
That used to be called "begging the question" before morons started using it to mean what it sounds like it should mean. Now you have to call it petitio principii to avoid confuising the dimwitted.

Massive illegal immigration isn't "necessary". And clearly the "plight of illegal immigrants" is indeed "their fault" unless they were drugged, kidnapped, and dumped on this side of the border...in which case they're not immigrants, and (lacking criminal intent) arguably not even illegal.

But that's not what happens, of course.

If you in fact actually meant "the plight of poor Mexicans" (which is what they are regardless of what side of the border they're on), then that's a different question...so that question is really "Why is there poverty?"

I'm sure you have lots of explanations (with attached utopian solutions) for it. But if your solutions involve giving away things that belong to other people, you may have trouble finding support for your position (except of course among the recipeints of your proxy-based largesse). But it's an excellent answer to the "why illegal imigration exists" question. Speaking of "giving away things that belong to other people", I agree with you that agricultural subsidies are indeed a huge problem. All we have to do is get everybody to agree to give them up all at once. (Good luck with the Europeans on that one.)

I just don't buy "eliminate agricultural subsidies and corruption in the Mexican and US governments" as a practical solution to illegal aliens.
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