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Undertoad · 09-27-2002, 09:52 PM

<i>If the US cannot justify its actions to the international community and openly defies international law it creates a precedent for other countries to do so and really, undermines all diplomatic forward movement in recent time, if the US ignores international law, why should anyone else obey it?</i>

You mean somebody out there actually obeys it??

No, really, which one is the country that currently gives a flying leaping flying shit about the UN and international law.

Maybe one o' them scandinavian ones?? OOoohh, yeah,.... it's Norway, isn't it?

<i>Secondly if the US sets out to render the UN powerless by ignoring them they will for all intents and purposes kill the UN, the result of that would be equally messy, if not more so. It leaves us in a situation with no safely checks, pressure valves, methods of enacting diplomacy, channels for avoiding conflict or opening discussion, setting us back to pre league of nations times. </i>

Nations could engage in diplomacy. Hey, we don't need to get together in a big room any longer, we have the net now.

They just wouldn't have a "Human Rights Coalition" where the US would be voted OUT and a bunch of nations that engage in slavery, torture, etc. would be voted IN.

Or a security council based on a bizarro world where France is 100% relevant and Japan, Canada, and India are 100% irrelevant.

Damn, where DID I put that worm-can opener.

09-27-2002, 09:52 PM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	<i>If the US cannot justify its actions to the international community and openly defies international law it creates a precedent for other countries to do so and really, undermines all diplomatic forward movement in recent time, if the US ignores international law, why should anyone else obey it?</i> You mean somebody out there actually obeys it?? No, really, which one is the country that currently gives a flying leaping flying shit about the UN and international law. Maybe one o' them scandinavian ones?? OOoohh, yeah,.... it's Norway, isn't it? <i>Secondly if the US sets out to render the UN powerless by ignoring them they will for all intents and purposes kill the UN, the result of that would be equally messy, if not more so. It leaves us in a situation with no safely checks, pressure valves, methods of enacting diplomacy, channels for avoiding conflict or opening discussion, setting us back to pre league of nations times. </i> Nations could engage in diplomacy. Hey, we don't need to get together in a big room any longer, we have the net now. They just wouldn't have a "Human Rights Coalition" where the US would be voted OUT and a bunch of nations that engage in slavery, torture, etc. would be voted IN. Or a security council based on a bizarro world where France is 100% relevant and Japan, Canada, and India are 100% irrelevant. Damn, where DID I put that worm-can opener.