[jaguar]

OK, sorry for the hyperbole on my part, my point was that we all know you're a busy college student, so you don't need to remind us all the time. If you don't have time to make all the points you want to, make them next week; we'll still be here. I do the same thing; I'm on my way out the door and want to make a point real quick, but then I say something stupid like how we used to "help Iraq fight the Soviet Union" in the 80's, which I'm surprised as hell no one called me out on.

Its basicly to say - i havn't address all the points i wanted to so don't think your points are going to go unchallanged. I usually check cellar in the morning befor ei go out and then when i come back, often i jsut don't ahve neough time in the morning, and don't anyone suggest getting up early, thats blasphemy.

I agree, if there's no firm evidence then we shouldn't do anything. But I think there is firm evidence that most of us aren't privvy to. There is news on the wires this morning about Rumsfeld sharing newfound intel with UN members that links Iraq to al Qaeda. Yes, it may well be more carefully-timed media puppeteering.

Do you accept your cooountry going to war, or even suggesting going to war on teh basis 'oh yes, we have proof, we just can't show you, so beleive us and shut up'?

Well again, those aren't weapons your links are talking about. The fact we sold them biological agents for study in good intention doesn't say much.

Yea....study....mmmm..........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa. ahem. Ok then....

The Senate report also makes clear that: 'The United States provided the government of Iraq with 'dual use' licensed materials which assisted in the development of Iraqi chemical, biological and missile-system programmes.'

Ill admit i misquoted one of the first links, claim it was for 'study' all you want, ill just sit here and laugh your pathetic attempts to ignroe the truth, even Tobiasly admit is for crying out loud, theres no point trying to argue with it. I mean in the same breath i'm expecting you to tell me the stuff america sells Taiwan is for 'research purposes' or the US pile of nukes are for 'testing only'. Lets 'study' some VX nerve gas, thats real ambigious eh. Realpolitik. Please.

We are well past the era where we can afford to act reactively to attacks against us. Regimes run by homicidal maniacs who hate the U.S. having WMD is something we can't let happen. Sure, Saddam may be interested only in regional domination, but what happens when he dies 15 years from now? Who takes over.. his charming son Uday? Maybe someone else who's interested in more than regional power?

And what if some al-Qaeda insider offers him a few million for just one long-range missile capable of dispersing VX nerve gas over an entire city?

You know pakistan is pretty kooky and they have nukes. China sells stuff all the time and they have nukes. Russia is full of decaying nukes. The lsit of countires that have chem and or bio weapons is jsut too long, why is there no regime change there?