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Originally posted by Xugumad
That is completely false, since those are almost Bush's very own words.
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You have failed to show where those are Bush's words. What you've shown is headline writers putting words in his mouth. Even so, I'm not saying that he never uttered the word "avenge"; it's pretty much a no-brainer with two billowing piles of wreckage behind you and untold thousands of people dead to say "we'll avenge their deaths". I was saying the reason for Bush's stance on Iraq has nothing to do with revenge or "getting them back" for Dad, and you haven't shown at all how that's "completely false".
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The US was frothing back when France started testing nuclear weapons again in the mid-90s, and couldn't do anything about it, either.
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You're confusing "couldn't" with "wouldn't". We didn't stop France from acquiring WMD because we aren't really that concerned with France using them against us. Iraq is another matter. And if you're using "couldn't" in the sense that it's against UN rules, that's a poor choice of words as well. <B>We will play be the UN's rules only as long as it serves our own interests.</B> Up until now, it has served our interests to follow "international law". If that no longer is the case, we will buck the UN, as we have done in the past.
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In politics, are always those who follow their ideals, and attempt to do what they believe is right, and those who attempt to remain in the populist public eye - with the latter usually being in the great majority.
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Ah, the irony. Saying and doing what you believe is right, versus buckling under pressure, even if that pressure is coming from the majority. Tell me why again Bush should listen to the UN?
As others have stated before, this issue could test the very legitimacy of the UN. Now I'm not advocating isolationism or ignoring the impact of our actions on the rest of the world. But people keep talking about this or that UN rule as if that's the final say. I'll say it again, when the UN no longer serves our purposes, we'll act on our own.
We have a sitting president who wants regime change in Iraq. The majority of Americans support military action. That means it's gonna happen; it's as simple as that. If we can convince the world that it's in their interest as well, and get them to support us, great. If not, we'll take care of it ourselves.