[jaguar]

Just because you find her opinion inflammatory doesn't mean she's trying to be inflammatory. Grok this: your perception is not her perception. Just because you think you're being baited doesn't mean she's trying to do that.

My perception is based on past experience and is reaffirmed by the opinions of others over time. Grok that in-between the pseudointellectual, disattached comments that fail to grasp the contextualization of the issue or past events you seem to like making. Kinda clever linking? Kinda lame attempt to flog a dead horse. .

An aside -- who gives a crap about anything being off-topic?

When the offtopic is an attempt to flog a dead horse, one that's done no good in the past and been resolved - I do. As for defining offtopic, attempting to drag another thread into an unrelated one I think is a good definition.

Fuckit. I'm in a bad mood.

You see, juju, "what you can say depends on who you are" has nothing whatever to do with the real topic of this thread, right?

Nice game of mutual masturbation you've got going there, good on you, now, lets get back to reality can we?

I think what you mean to say here is, "I can't defy your logic. Therefore, I will trivialize and demonize you."

I explained why I wasn't reply - simply because I have wasted my time too many times in the past, and listening to flames will with personal attacks in response, why should I bother again? Clearly you've decided to pick a bone or you've missed some really long, ugly threads.

I think that exercising ideological control over information flows is not that different on the large scale than on the small, nor on the right wing than on the left. To pretend that it is strikes me as doublethink, glossed as believing two contradictory ideas at the same time.

Translation: Because I can't bitch and whine in dhamsaics forums, its evilevil censorship, which should be stopped because I have some kind of special cellar elder status which means I know more than everyone else about cellar, which therefore adds weight to my opinion. Since I lost that one ill attempt to make not very subtle attempt to bring it up every time I can because I feel aggrieved about the issue.

Doublethink does have the seductive property of allowing the pot to call the kettle black. Or even "a bitch", while excoriating the kettle for negative attitude and personal attacks.

Translation: Since I know jag is usually up for an argument and attacked me in that pervious debate about 'censorship' ill make some rather illogical(to clarify for those up the back - I attacked her for being offtopic and flogging a dead horse - not personal attacks) comments that specifically attack him with the hope of drawing some ire I can work with.

I think that exercising ideological control over information flows is not that different on the large scale than on the small, nor on the right wing than on the left. To pretend that it is strikes me as doublethink, glossed as believing two contradictory ideas at the same time.

Doublethink does have the seductive property of allowing the pot to call the kettle black. Or even "a bitch", while excoriating the kettle for negative attitude and personal attacks.

Translation: Jag is an evil hypercritical censor fascist.

If you want to talk about this so called censorship, bring it up in the thread about it and ill explain exactly what you can do about it. Namely, start your own website, or personal forum and say whatever you. Or maybe post every deleted post in that thread for all to see. Mayber wander into the street and exercise your first amendment rights as much as you want. Or jsut shut the fuck up about it, stop whining and live with it. Pick one, any one and stick to it and stop defecating on other threads.

This is in itself a demonstration of a: why dhamsaic deletes her comments, and secondly why i was refusing to answer her comments - another long, utterly pointless flamewar. I hope juju in your little domain of ethical piety the reality of the situation eventully got though. Sadly i doubt it.