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Shocker · 04-18-2006, 05:05 PM

Well tw...looks like you figured me out. I'm really an unpatriotic operative of Rush Limbaugh, here to try and sway your minds into actually following the laws of your government and to build support into protecting our borders, our jobs, our history, our language, our culture, and, um... well what else am I forgetting that I'm sure you think I'm trying to do?

No the truth is, you don't even know me or my motivations, and for you to just assume that I don't care about my country or am not patriotic is just ludicrous. As a matter of fact, I actually do care greatly about this country, and that is one of the reasons I want our borders protected. You see, the Al Qaeda threat, whether real and imminent or not is still there, and you can't say for certain how they plan on coming here or how they plan on attacking us. I'm not trying to sound like Rush Limbaugh either, cause I actually am at work while he is on the radio-I've never heard his talking points, so to even bring him up in this doesn't make sense.

Bruce is also right in saying that if you don't like the law then change it. This is after all, supposed to be a democtratic country. And he is right in saying that as long as it is in effect it should be enforced, across the board. It seems to me that my motivations in wanting the immigration laws enforced has come under some scrutiny by some on this forum. I however, would like to ask a question - yes tw, a question! Why is it you are so adamant about not enforcing our existing immigration laws, protecting our borders, and promoting the general disrespect for our laws and the system? Don't get me wrong, I agree there IS a problem and it needs to be fixed. There IS a need for immigration and cheap labor. There IS a need to protect our borders. The government DOES have a duty to protect its citizens. I do love my country and I also respect the laws in place. In a democracy like ours, if there is a problem with a law, it will eventually get worked out, so while you may not support enforcement of immigration laws, they are the law and should be enforced as long as they are the law. So if you want to make it into me spewing political rhetoric, fine, you can do that. But when you boil it down, what you have is people breaking the law. Forget the circumstances for a moment and ask yourself, when is it in the public's best interest to have a massive amount of people break the law? Under what circumstances is it ok to break the law? During the civil rights movement in the 60's, black leaders decided that it is not in their interest to break the law to make a point, but to use the legal system already in place to make a change, and it worked. Why now will not immigrants do the same thing?

04-18-2006, 05:05 PM	#15
Shocker Knight of the Oval-Shaped Conference Table Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Your Mom's house Posts: 378	Well tw...looks like you figured me out. I'm really an unpatriotic operative of Rush Limbaugh, here to try and sway your minds into actually following the laws of your government and to build support into protecting our borders, our jobs, our history, our language, our culture, and, um... well what else am I forgetting that I'm sure you think I'm trying to do? No the truth is, you don't even know me or my motivations, and for you to just assume that I don't care about my country or am not patriotic is just ludicrous. As a matter of fact, I actually do care greatly about this country, and that is one of the reasons I want our borders protected. You see, the Al Qaeda threat, whether real and imminent or not is still there, and you can't say for certain how they plan on coming here or how they plan on attacking us. I'm not trying to sound like Rush Limbaugh either, cause I actually am at work while he is on the radio-I've never heard his talking points, so to even bring him up in this doesn't make sense. Bruce is also right in saying that if you don't like the law then change it. This is after all, supposed to be a democtratic country. And he is right in saying that as long as it is in effect it should be enforced, across the board. It seems to me that my motivations in wanting the immigration laws enforced has come under some scrutiny by some on this forum. I however, would like to ask a question - yes tw, a question! Why is it you are so adamant about not enforcing our existing immigration laws, protecting our borders, and promoting the general disrespect for our laws and the system? Don't get me wrong, I agree there IS a problem and it needs to be fixed. There IS a need for immigration and cheap labor. There IS a need to protect our borders. The government DOES have a duty to protect its citizens. I do love my country and I also respect the laws in place. In a democracy like ours, if there is a problem with a law, it will eventually get worked out, so while you may not support enforcement of immigration laws, they are the law and should be enforced as long as they are the law. So if you want to make it into me spewing political rhetoric, fine, you can do that. But when you boil it down, what you have is people breaking the law. Forget the circumstances for a moment and ask yourself, when is it in the public's best interest to have a massive amount of people break the law? Under what circumstances is it ok to break the law? During the civil rights movement in the 60's, black leaders decided that it is not in their interest to break the law to make a point, but to use the legal system already in place to make a change, and it worked. Why now will not immigrants do the same thing? Last edited by Shocker; 04-18-2006 at 05:10 PM.