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Old 09-14-2002, 08:40 PM   #2
jaguar
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The major US cities have the little cafes where people sip lattes and watch the world pass by. Some have more than others, of course. (I'd rate our own city as "medium.")
Been to Europe and compared? As fro quality of coffee across the Atlantic my opinion is based on the (in some cases almost violent) reactions to lack of decent coffee in America. best example I can think of is the entire crew that went with an exhibition round the US on tour with a collection of our National Gallery. I'm sure there are exceptions but is there anyone here that has lived in both who can offer an opinion? As for sitting in mcdonalds, if you think that counts you don't understand what i'm talking about by a mile.

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I don't know if you were trying to hang Nescafe on the US, but Nescafe is made by Nestle...a Swiss company. (I should know, as my stepdad has worked for them for almost 39 years. If you eat Bit-O-Honey or Laffy Taffy, it comes off his machine.)
No, it’s just that Nescafe is shite coffee, i'm well aware its swiss.

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I'm curious jag...what does an 8-12 ounce cup of coffee go for down there in Australia? Starbucks charges $1.80 for a 20 oz. cup. Dunkin Donuts runs about $1.50. Some of the shops on South Street run $1 and up.
ounce? Damn backward imperial measurements :p Average cup of coffee here is AU$2.50 (US$1.30). How many ounces that is I’d have no idea. More creative coffees (ice-cream, mocha, hundreds of varieties vary from place to place) can get up to AU$3 or so, but very, very rarely higher.

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To be honest jag, I doubt that Starbucks will leave Australia, especially if it begins to "localize" itself. (Like what McDonalds does...offering things that are of interest to the consumers of an area they are serving.
I doubt' it'll leave too, some people who naturally go past it will probably stop by for a quick coffee but our cbd is full of little plazas full of beautiful cafes, most overlap with a business disctrict. Between that and places like degraves where I live on the weekend the majority of the population is pretty damn happy with the ways things are. Starbucks won't be able to compete with the existing culture, it’s not something a corporation like that can do. We also have hudsons coffee which I believe is American. I often go past it on the way to school, they make a reasonable triple espresso (good for hangovers and pre exam) but I wouldn’t go out of my way to get there like I would my usual haunts.
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