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Jag, you are missing the entire point. It isn't about kids carrying guns, it's about kids being taught responsibility and how to make wise decisions.
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There are better ways to do that IMHO than firearms training, without suffocating people. I'll deal with this further down.
Nice attempt to misquote me there, I'm going to ignore it. I'm also going to also ignore the obvious crap you pointed out, the verbal equalivant of trying to look someone down over horn-rimmed glasses. As well as that ill ignore all the wonderful tangents you lace your posts with, the not-particularly-subtle personal attacks on me and deal with the issue of this thread, the comparison I made between those two pictures.
I'm left with a much shorter post to deal with now I've sheared off the shit I must say.
Firstly, I don't believe firearms training is a good form of self reliance training and while it can be a way to train responsibility, I don't think it’s the best one. Self reliance? How about some useful skills (I don't think being about to hit a paper target in the head at 200m is a useful skill unless you're planning on becoming a merc), and independence instead. Pratical things oddly enough are far more useful.
This is getting dangerously close to in Isreali/Palastinian thread, what a nice way to whip up a shitstorm, combine gun control and that. Anyway....
While my original post was just a shot of light irony at them both having the same gun since its been taken so seriously and seems to virtually have become an extension of the other thread on this I may as well see it out now.
You seem to be saying that indoctrination into hatred is the enemy, not firearms. Fair enough. I assume therefore that the 'child abuse' heading this was originally posted with refers to this, not children having firearms in a training with military weaponry situation, as that is clearly ok according to you.
Glad we narrowed that down. Living in a country where the Attorney General is afraid of the female form I can understand you dislike of indoctrination, religious or otherwise. In that I agree, it’s not a good thing, I don't think indoctrinating kids into an insular culture of hate is a good thing, shock horror. I think that is about all I agree with you on.
Ciao