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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Well, for starters we have to pay them a shit load more money in the states than we do if they are kept at home. Doesn't letting them into the US defeat the point of nafta? How are US corporations going to enjoy the benefits of remote slavery if the slaves insist on moving closer to our home? jeez louise

Bingo. So why do we subsidize so many corporations to keep those jobs in America - that then require illegal immigrants? Why does the US government subsidize 50% of all sugar especially for the benefit of US Sugar and others on corporate welfare. From The Economist of 25 April 2005:

These are not happy times for the dwindling band of free-traders in Washington, DC. Trade sceptics are on the move on two fronts: raising the barricades against the Chinese and refusing to lower them for the Central Americans. ...

Outrageous import quotas keep the domestic price of sugar at double that of the world price. CAFTA would allow more imports in from Central American countries, but still less than 2% of US sugar production. For the sugar lobby—and the 15 or so Republican politicians who follow its bidding—that is still too much.

Furthemore, US government subsidizes make it virtually impossible to grow sugar in nations where sugar is better grown. US literally dumps excess sugar on world markets thereby destroying jobs in those other nations.

This is why the Doha Round broke up three days early in Cancun when anti-free trade nations - US and France - refused to even negotiate. Trade of goods WE make in American by restricting free trade and by subsidizing with corporate welfare.

We massively subsidize corn that is better grown overseas. OK. Now that agricultural industry needs employees. But we put restriction on legal immigration by requiring things like advance degrees. Where are those labors to come from? From the countries who need those jobs and could better grow that corn if free trade was practiced.

Now we will solve a problem that WE created by putting up walls? When does intelligence get used instead of bricks? In other venues, that same condition is called a riot - what happens when people use force rather than intellect to solve a problem.

They would rather stay home and work. But there is no work at home. US agricultural subsidies alone literally bankrupt third world agricultural industries. Sugar is only one in a long list of problems created by Americans who are 'on the take' and by other Americans who ignore this political corruption called corporate welfare.

You think a wall is a solution? Well how much do you ready know about the WTO Cancun conference where enemies of free trade were the United States and France?