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Originally Posted by marichiko

If a person is essentially an item of property owned by someone else, then their children also become someone else's property. Joe Serf Jr. may long to help out dear old Mom in her old age, but if the evil Lord of the Manor has decreed that he go off and dig turnips somewhere a week's journey away, there's not much little Joe or his Mom can do about it, and Mom's sure not secure in her old age.

I haven't been following the thread closely but isn't this a description of Social Security? We don't own the fruit of our labors. I'll have to go back now to see what you're not getting because I do in fact speak jive.