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Old 07-26-2002, 09:49 AM   #21
Undertoad
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Regarding 'bored' soldiers; you know fairly well that it is close to impossible to get an Israeli soldier to admit that he killed anyone out of boredom, about the same way that it'd be difficult to get any, say, US soldier to admit that he raped any Vietnamese village girls 'because he was horny.'
X., you're an intelligent person but admit it, this is about as weak as it gets. Your proof of Israeli soldier criminalism is that a fraction of US soldiers were criminal 35 years ago?

Be reasonable. The fact of the matter is that, where military might gets inserted, shit happens. The most highly-trained fighters in the world mistake marital celebrations as anti-aircraft fire. It's the fog of war, and probably inevitable.

Let's see what happens if YOU drive a steel box into a town where every person wants to see you dead, two months after your buddies got offed in a similar situation and where everyone in the town believes that killing themselves to kill you would earn them 72 virgins in eternal life. If you were bright about it, you'd have an itchy trigger finger too.

This is a much more reasonable pattern to assume than that, with the whole world watching, some of the best-trained soldiers in the world indiscriminately kill innocents. Especially when the Palestinians invent new deaths all the time to show the world -- including about 500 invented deaths in Jenin and a fake funeral complete with a carried corpse that came to life at the end of the parade route.

I think the F16 was overkill (no pun intended), but at the same time, we're here talking about what happens when they go in with tanks. And the whole fight is about the terms that ended the last big war. If nobody in the entire world respects those terms, there will have to be another big war to bring about new terms.
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