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That white people ... have an obligation to go out on a limb and somehow try and go out of their way to make friends with communities that often want nothing to do with them or they are to blame when those same minorities start trying to kill their police forces and burn down business? That double standard is half the problem.
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And therein lies your mistake. You somehow know these people do not want to have anything to do with France? That is absurd and is only a party line from government officials who are part of the problem; not part of the solution. The street interviews say this government line, that apparently Jaguar reiterates, is wrong.
Those are second and third generation immigrants who complain for decades they have been treated as outsiders. Are you now going to tell them to go home if they don't like it? Is that not what those racists in America's deep south would say to 'niggers'? Of course it is. Are you telling these Arab and African immigrants that they should go home if they don't like it? Jaguar. They are home. They were born in France.
BTW, some of what I am saying has only been repeated by member of the French National Football (soccer) team.
What should these marginalized people have done? The situation today is same as its was 10 years ago. Ten years ago, immigrants dealt peacefully with this situation - and you did not even know about the anger and discrimination. Why not? Now you tell them that they are wrong for no longer doing what was not working? Part of the problem here is that Jaguar did not even know how tense things were getting ten years ago. So instead of discussing the problem, Jaguar addresses the symptoms: calls them thugs and criminals. Well if that were true, then the riots would not be in (last count) 254 cities in France and expanding into Belgium. Or most all immigrants must be thugs and criminals. Which is it?
Yes, violence is not a good solution. Yes, desperately needed was a Martin Luther King to lead a peaceful solution. But Dr King's and Ghandhi's are rare people. Therefore what is happening in France is, unfortunately, inevitable. Some racists are defined or exposed by a denial of the why; to complain only about the riots while ignoring the underlying long term cause. If one does not start by dealing with the riots, then yes, a racist attitude is suspect.
Yes when I went through those 1968 riots, suddenly many hereto unknown racist teachers exposed their true feathers. As one specifically told my friend in a private repremand, "Why do you a jew give a damn about those niggers". Until those riots, we would have never known. To this racist teacher, it was only about the violence - not about the reasons for the violence.
Using your definition of assimilation and integration - in nations that have immigrants - both words must define the same thing. Both things must happen simultaneously as if they were the same thing. And that was my point albeit misunderstood. When it comes to immigrants, assimilation and integration must be the same thing even though - as you have demonstrated - the definitons are slightly different.
Argue all you want with contradictions stated above. That only if you want to argue. But to understand the point, then find and understand a condition where assimilation and integration become the same. A concept where immigrants become that 'so productive' part of a nation. A problem that France - and other European nations - must learn.
Yes the violence and rioting are wrong. However it was also inevitable. Like it or not, due to attitudes that the government is has now exposed, the riots were inevitable. Good people are now becoming criminal types for reasons that should have never existed. AND for reasons that other western nations should be looking at within their own borders. France is not an exception in Europe. Hatred of Turks in Austria is also severe. Europe does have pockets of severe immigrant racism - and I am not just talking about the Balkans either.
To talk about the French riots as wrong is to ignore a far bigger and more important problem. Part of it involves a expression called 'passive' racism. An assumption that *they* don't want to associate with others is a typically racist assumption. An assumption that many have and that most don't know about until things like these riots start exposing those biases.
I can tell you from personal experience, it took those 1968 riots for us to see how racist some around us really were. Otherwise we would never have known. You are now seeing same in the responses from some French government officials.