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Old 11-06-2005, 03:01 PM   #13
bargalunan
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I agree with TW.

In the 19th century Baron Haussman destroyed the old short and narrow streets of Paris, and built the “Grands boulevards”.
He built a lot of modern infrastructures like sewers etc …
Some advantages were that Paris became cleaner, the traffic more convenient. Another advantage was that with such wide streets, the police could control popular riots more easily !

All along the “Grands boulevards” he built high buildings. I like how people were living there. The ground floor and the highest floors were reserved for the low class citizens (there was no lift, and the ground floor isn’t always safe). Middle and high classes stayed in the middle floors. (Very high classes were living in particular buildings). So low, middle and high class were living, meeting and melting together.

At the beginning of the 20th century France was suffering from immigration : Italians “Rital”, Polish “Polacs”, Spanish. Extreme rights already wanted to expulse them, they were responsible of unemployment, lost of French culture… Few of us remember that. We just enjoy Emile Zola novels (Italian), Picasso (Spanish), Platini, Koppa (soccers players, sons of Italians and Polish immigrants) etc…

During the first World War, France used African soldiers coming from French colonies (PS : children of “Tirailleurs sénégalais” are always waiting for their income).
After WW2 France needed immigration to rebuilt the country, it was the full employment. So came north African, and black African workers. France quickly built suburbs with high modern and dehumanised buildings.
At the beginnings living in these suburbs was nice with all kinds of people : native French and immigrants. But finally those buildings badly grew old. Only the low class citizens and immigrants stayed there. Hopeless territories for hopeless people.

France thus built ghettos which suffer from lack of links between social classes.

Immigrants are the first who suffer from unemployment (they often are less skilled and at equal level suffer from racism). Second generation immigrants are still not French and no more African, Algerian etc… They’re looking for their identity and the society really doesn’t help them.
They want to work like everybody, be able to buy everything that TV boasts them. They just want to stop unfairness, racial, economical. (before, former immigrants were also less impatient and more resigned, but they could work)

I really disagree with those behaviours (made by second or and third-generation immigrants, mostly North African Arabs, or by native French people) : destroying other people cars and public structures. They can’t see any other solution.

Our anticrime interior minister and deep psychopate, (son of Hungarian immigrant) Nicolas Sarkozy’s first decision in 2003 was to revoke a police captain who tried to help communication between police and the young population of suburbs.
He never stopped pouring oil on fire.
- Calling young immigrants, the "thugs".
- Wanting to use the “Kärcher” to clean them !!!
- Rising a French Islamic fanatic as an enemy, despite nobody has ever heard of him before.

Hopeless people’s anger can easily be used. Riots really began last week when SOMEBODY (who ???) dropped a tear gas grenade (coming from police munition) in a mosque !!!

During the first gulf war, Arabian, Islamic immigrants stayed quiet in France. They don’t want to set their religion and way of life in France. (Excepted some seldom fanatics)

There are real social problems but medias are building political and religious theories to explain them, and still more divide people.

PS 1 : There are not a lot of Turkish immigrants in France (more in Germany)
PS 2 : Medias are building political and religious theories but I still believe in conspiracy theory. Sarkozy, Bush, Blair… idem
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