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Originally Posted by Clodfobble
And somewhere before that was the whole setup of what UT and Radar are doing here, which is not in any sense a traditional debate about "what is going on in the nation today." You should go read those posts.
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I did, but if you'll notice there's been a bit of thread drift here. Hey, UT and Radar can duke it out just fine without any more help from me. They've lost me - if I was ever NOT lost.
Gentleman have at it, sorry for the interruption!