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BigV · 09-30-2005, 11:30 AM

Please excuse my considerable ignorance on the particulars, but I am interested in hearing more. Some questions.

1 -- Heckling. It heckling really a valid form of political debate, anywhere? Except the cellar and FOX news, of course, where it ranks quite high. I have heard of it and seen small short clips of it on televison, but I wonder if I was seeing it because it made "good entertaining television", as opposed to news.

2 -- Are you saying that this heckler was removed and his pass (like a press pass?) was confiscated, and that this episode was claimed to be a terroristic act of some kind?

3 -- Not really a question, but a statement of sympathy. We in the US have the PATRIOT Act (which is an acronym for something, something orwellianly opposite of the dictionary definition of patriot, I'm sure), that is used improperly. Many things are done in the name of the GWOT that are anathema to our political culture. The elimination of checks and balances, the suspension of habeus corpus, the wholesale suspension of many civil liberties, there are others here who can more precisely and articulately describe the abuses than I can. I only want to say that it's happening here, and it's wrong, WRONG. I sympathize with you.

09-30-2005, 11:30 AM	#4
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Please excuse my considerable ignorance on the particulars, but I am interested in hearing more. Some questions. 1 -- Heckling. It heckling really a valid form of political debate, anywhere? Except the cellar and FOX news, of course, where it ranks quite high. I have heard of it and seen small short clips of it on televison, but I wonder if I was seeing it because it made "good entertaining television", as opposed to news. 2 -- Are you saying that this heckler was removed and his pass (like a press pass?) was confiscated, and that this episode was claimed to be a terroristic act of some kind? 3 -- Not really a question, but a statement of sympathy. We in the US have the PATRIOT Act (which is an acronym for something, something orwellianly opposite of the dictionary definition of patriot, I'm sure), that is used improperly. Many things are done in the name of the GWOT that are anathema to our political culture. The elimination of checks and balances, the suspension of habeus corpus, the wholesale suspension of many civil liberties, there are others here who can more precisely and articulately describe the abuses than I can. I only want to say that it's happening here, and it's wrong, WRONG. I sympathize with you. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.