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Originally posted by Tobiasly
Of course they're not gonna come out and publicly disclose the evidence we have, but you can bet we'll share it with our allies. Many of those allies are rather cool to the idea right now, which makes the burden of proof for the Bush administration that much more.

Previously when we shared evidence, our allies were in total agreement. The current administration has no viable evidence for their positions on 'axis of evil', removing Arafat, attacking Iraq, or even for the latest nonsense called Star Wars. Therefore allies will be rather cool. We have loyal friends who hope to ride out 4 embarrssing years of George Jr or hope to get him educated.

There is no enemy to be surprise attacked. That need to surprise attack is simply the same introverted fears that Tojo and MaggieL would use to "be comfortable". Unfortunately surprise attack is the same concepts that historically caused disasterous consequences for previously billigerent nations. Nations that surprise attack in violation of international law often don't get to write history.

Iraq is not the threat some of us would foolishly and illogically perceive it. But this administration is driven by a need to remove Saddam - and anyone else they fear - by first making a conclusion and then seeking facts to support that conclusion. Our allies are cool to supporting evidence for George Jr's ravings about 'axis of evil' because the evidence does not exist - is not credible. They are uneasy with George Jr's need to attack his personal fears based upon invalid facts.

Our allies are cool to George Jr's 'axis of evil' because it makes no sense once they saw the evidence. They are cool to unilateral attacks because even countries at most risk, after seeing the evidence, don't agree with this extreme right wing president. Turkey, a country so angry at Saddam, was going to open their own separate military offensive during the Gulf War. Now even Turkey sees no justificaton in George Jr's evidence. Their generals say so outrightly in reviewing plans as to where to base the Iraq attack. The only Middle East nation - the only - that sees justification to attack Iraq - Sharon's Israel. That is scary.

60 Minutes, I believe it was, recently did a piece on Kuwait - a country so happy with the US that they changed the name of a street from 'Baghdad' to 'Bush'. However this president is so out of touch with the world that the name Bush no longer has good connotations in Kuwait. Their leaders have also seen the evidence and just don't agree with the warmonker George Jr administration. Their leaders instead, like their people, no longer have the great admiration for the US as existed 10 years ago. The attitude change is even being demonstrated in how people dress less in western clothes. George Jr and company are that much out of touch with the world as to undermine close relations even between America and Kuwait.

Those such as MaggieL, who would agree with George Jr, cannot provide logical facts for their feelings. MaggieL must outrightly ignore lessons of history when she advocates the same extremist attitudes we now know almost turned the Cuban Missile Crisis into nuclear war. MaggieL advocates war just like Curtis LeMay ("bomb them back to the stone age") because only a perceived threat is evidence enought to attack. That is what she adovates. If a threat is perceived, then a military attack is justified - consequences be damned.

There is no axis of evil. There is currently an American president so naive as to actually undermine moderate movements in Iran. George Jr has actually empowered the clerics in Iran at the expensive of moderates who would move to be friends to the US. But then extremists, like Tojo, Kim Il Sung, etc always see enemies hiding everywhere and must preemptively attack those mythical threats. Ironic how insecure this George Jr administration is to advocate same.

Saddam is there because George Jr's right wing advisors screwed up. His advisors so cannot forget it as to look for any reason to attack and blame Iraq. They looked so hard for any evidence connecting Saddam to the WTC collapse even though there was zero reasons to even look. Be very suspicious of anything that the George Jr administration says. Our allies, including laterly Tony Blair, found George Jr's claims at the G8 to not be credible. George Jr got no support from any other G8 nation for his 'axis of evil' concepts - just tacit silence. There are zero reasons to unilaterally attack anyone - which is why American allies are so cool to an administration they hope will demonstrate more intelligence than they did during the Chinese spy plane incident.

Why are American diplomats received now only by lower level diplomats at Egyptian airports? George Jr does not have credible evidence for his right wing positions which is why Mubarak intentionally and publically canceled a meeting with Colin Powel - an outright slap in the face to George Jr. - who sees enemies hiding everywhere.

Our allies across the world don't see credibility in George Jr's evidence. Why then is that missing evidence justification for surprise attacks - like Tojo and Gen Curtis LeMay would advocate? This administration is scary, in part, because some Cellar dwellers even support those anti-American principals.